Jack just curious,what made you breed a "cold" dog. i know bolo was off of the two gamest dogs you ever bred and turned out to be cold. what made you still breed him? because i know there is something more to it
Jack just curious,what made you breed a "cold" dog. i know bolo was off of the two gamest dogs you ever bred and turned out to be cold. what made you still breed him? because i know there is something more to it
Originally Posted by bently
If you already know that Bolo was off of two of the gamest dogs I've ever had, then why do you ask me "what made me" breed to their son? You already know the answer
Despite the dog's being cold, I wanted to satisfy my own curiosity, nothing more. Rather than ask a bunch of questions online about "what to do" with my own dog, like a retard, I make my own decisions as to what to do with my own dogs. Like a big boy. I always like to know, first hand, what I am talking about on the subject of breeding dogs
Too many people are encumbered by the insecurity of "What will they say if I do X?" ... but I have never been like this. If I feel like doing X I will do X. I don't need "internet approval" of my actions, nor do I care what "other people think" of my decisions. Further, I personally have debunked so many dog myths on my own that I don't even pay attention to what most dogmen think on any subject, since most just repeat the stupidities "they've been told" on the subject of breeding, without having any real breeding knowledge of their own. I had enough breeding knowledge of my own, and enough knowledge of my own line, to be comfortable (and curious) enough to make the decision I made.
The fact is Pup Pup and Super Red were two terrificly-game dogs and I was surprised that Bolo was cold coming out of two dogs like his parents. Pup Pup was also sired by the baddest dog I have ever owned in my life, Stormbringer, and I did not want to lose his genetics with the last living son of his. When they produced Bolo, he (for whatever reason) was a cold dog. Super Red was also off of Stormy's half-sister Red Sonja, and I thought I might still have "an ace" in there somewhere, if I could "re-shuffle the deck" right ...
I later learned that Pup Pup, as game as he was, in general (for whatever reason) threw a lot of cold dogs ... and more curs than what I was used to producing with any other stud I have ever used ... which is something I almost never got from my line. So I was wondering where TF that came from, and figured I could get rid of it with another breeding step.
So I bred Bolo to another daughter of Pup Pup, in P'Cola, to try to double-up on this game dog, in order to see if I could "shake" what I perceived as a bad anomaly out of the "genetic mix" ... and maybe shake back IN an ace level dog ... which can sometimes happen when you "re-shuffle" the genetic deck you have. Nothing more. There have been plenty of well-bred cold stud dogs, that produced awesome, and Bolo was bred down from as game and badass a group of dogs that can be had in our sport.
Also, sometimes an individual dog may not produce that well, as a sire, but he will produce awesome dogs as a grandsire. Pup Pup was bred well enough, and was game enough as an individual, that I decided to see if that were true or not. So I did a double-breeding on him to see if I could straighten things out and not just end things with Bolo.
From what I understand, most of the dogs from that breeding were pretty good, with a supposedly badass male, but (also) with one supposedly cold male yet again. It was neither a great breeding nor a bad breeding. Ultimately, it was just yet another breeding I did that produced mostly pretty good dogs. Unfortunately, the ace quality of Stormbringer had apparently been lost altogether in that gene pool. My experiment achieved only average, pretty good results, but nothing spectacular.
Since "pretty good" is not where I wanted to be as a breeder, I dumped all of them and went in the direction of my overall better stud dogs: Icon, U-Nhan-Rha, and Silverback, ALL of whom proved the ability to produce ace-quality dogs (though Icon's breeding career got cut short).
Hope this answers,
Jack
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