You couldn't be more right, but it's not illegal to breed athletic dog to compete in these conformation shows,weight pulling,and for hog hunting. Now I have a lot to loose and also a lot to gain I've been into these dogs for the last 6-7 years and I'm also on other forums an all i hear is how Dogmen who has been in the game for decade told,stole, an all other disloyal things a man could do, I never heard of someone dealing with a newbie an getting the bad end of the stick. I just feel like a newbie is more willing to prove his loyalty to someone who has been doing these dogs the right way.