I was taught by an elder dogger, that a bitch is only good for the male winners she can produce and how many brood females she can lay. Take Evo's example where you can skulldrag a bitch win 3, breed her and lose to one that comes out of inferior stock. Well that can happen but like Evo said time will show who is doing right by his stock.

Well I'll add that you can skulldrag a bitch, win 3, breed her and she could be so damn hot that she EATS all the pups.

Now there have been a lot of very great bitches, fantastic even that can't raise a litter to save her life, what good is she for the breed or your stock long term. She's good for the hunt but that's it.

That's why I don't knock a man who wants a litter off a bitch before putting her to work, just to see whether or not she's good for breeding rather than knocking her against the wall for years thinking she's going to be the next honeybunch and she produce's sh*t or eats the whole d*mn litter. It's true that a bitch that aint been worked could do the same thing, but at least you know early.

Now breeding an unproven male, I don't think that makes sense, because well there are too many proven male athletes or producers for that matter.

Just adding a thought or two.

-ADM