he did his thing u cant take anything away from him, and i sure am not trying to but from what i hear hobo should of retired and V should of stayed retired. (i'm in hobo neck of the woods). Would i have liked to go into 3 chs of course but i went into good kennels and defeated them and they sure didnt think they where getting beat when they contracted. Is it not a test and do the kennels who have won and competed against the best time after time count regardless if they bring a 1st time out or a winner or better because they have proven that there eye to bring a good one is constant. The journal made a good choice and again congrats on all ur camps success, and to one of the best hounds of all time!!!