i sent u a pm dont have permission from the other sides to put there handles on the board but as i have shown u i sure didnt go into sheep and he won 3 in 6m 23 days going into a 1xw first time out and a 2xw for his third. What i did was went into camps that have bred and raised and campained winners and chs. He won gis on the same card ch. faceoff won bis he was witnesses by many of good camps and all who saw him knows he was above average in all aspects and a terrible mouth dog!!! No disrespect taken at all im here representing my hound so questions r warnted i hope i answered for u.