personally i think that the jake the snake hounds are very excepitional when not to inbred, but crossed with another strain of rbj. and that goes for all termite stuff, i dont like it too inbred, but prefer it with an out.

some of the best tant stuff i seen, just from my experience where coming down from the toe jam dog. very all around, durbible dogs.

i have family with waccamaw stuff, so i know. i will say that the one that he had right off of bj was very game but that's about it. The dog he had off of the bj3 dogs was very good, all around great bulldog!. the ones he are working with as we speak are very game, with some average mouth, and some with above average mouth but he loves there style. and i can tell you if you dont kill them, you not coming out of there alive. cause i have NEVER! seen a wacc hound stand the line.

honestly the dogs from wacc are great dogs, but when crossed with a different strain of rbj just makes them that much better!

The burns hounds i seen where nothing special but i will say that because i feel that the burns dogs are bred so tight, and people are treating them as a preservation line only breeding them to other burns dogs, that they dont make them any better than what they were 10 years ago.

hope this helps you out.