Well said Jack. I have often wondered that same thing. I was thinking about writing a book about brain surgery. I am going to leave out the fact I have never conducted the first brain surgery though. There are a ton of bulldog authors that tell us how appalling two dogs are fighting. The next sentence is that they would never lower themselves to the status of a lowly dog fighter. And then the third sentence is defining what gameness is. I am sorta lost on this one. EWO