Quote Originally Posted by CrazyRed View Post
Not sure if they matched into better thant he Queen she was truly a specimen of a dog. Yet she was a 38-40 dog and wasn't no slouch. Remember talking to Mr Layne a long time ago about some of the better dogs and neither of Tornado or Queen were unbeatable in his mind but every dog has it's day. 2 great dogs at 2 totally different weight classes, a friend of mine lost to Queen of Hearts and she was one beast of a bitch. I dont believe in matching different sexes but if i would then it would have to be a bitch like Queen of Hearts. She was great and so was Tornado. Me personally I believe the most underrated bitch of that era was Lady Stone and folks may not know but her manager died young before he got fully started. He was able to manage Lady Stone and did stop 2 Champions from ever getting to meet Tornado. At that weight, she was probably the best dog for your buck to stand a chance against Tornado. I know Queen of Hearts got moved up in weight and her handlers Abraham Brothers were at quite a few dances. Not sure why people always compare the two, and why people think Tornado ducked queen when they were at 2 different weight classes. Yes I've heard about the offer, yes I know about the offer. There were quite a few guys there when the offer was made but it wasn't really an offer. It was, i think I have the best bitch to walk the earth and so do you. If you want that bitch killed lets hook them. Ken A was a gambler and had plenty money and so did the Abraham Brother's, but it wasn't a call out as some make it appear to be.
At even weight, sure, absolutely, most people would agree it would be a "pickem" fight ... but with a 4 lb weight disadvantage against a phenom like Tornado, The Queen would have no chance.

As for the "equal or better dogs" this camp has been into: Gr Ch Adapt, Gr Ch Outlaw, Gr Ch Sampson 5xBIS, DBL Gr Ch Melonhead 14xW, Gr Ch Migraine, etc., etc.

So to think they would be happily going into dogs of this caliber at even weight (and either beating these dogs or taking them all the way) ... but that they're suddenly scared and going to be "ducking" a 4-lb smaller bitch with arguably the greatest bitch who ever lived ... is just silly.

Jack