Thanks for the response EWO... I am also anti man biter as well; however in this instance, that's not the case... I have a small [] in my garage that I use to kinda condition their mind so to speak... In the opposite corner is usually some kind of small rodent like rabbit, possum, whatever I can catch with my little trap... After working them on the hide they usually are wide open and turned up... I simply take them in and let them go across a few times... Now after breaking him off, I catch pure hell trying to get him back to the corner... He will grab my pants, the stick, whatever he can to get loose and it's simply a headache trying to get him back over there. I was talkn to a friend and he recommended using a leash until I get it all the way figured out. I like the intensity, as the owner and handler I have to find a way to correct the problem. I definitely wouldn't consider him a man biter... I have 3 young kids and I simply will not put up with that.