The ones we saw were rough and rugged and a very large percentage of the time just about freak mouthed. There a lot of W's in there and some L's here and there. A close friend of mine who was a close friend of Mr. Jackson, (and got dogs from Mr. Jackson) told me this. A lot of the L's posted would have been W's if they had been left down for a little longer. He felt Mr. Jackson was quick to pick up as he was a forward thinker. He was breeding or matching down the road even during that match. My friend says that is great, unless you are betting with him. Great posts on some solid history. History I have experience with which makes it all the more interesting. EWO