http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=306169

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=262852

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=374162

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=350171

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=407888

Believe it or not the last 3 are all litermates..there was actually a female twin to the male that someone tried to steal but must have gotten spooked and drop her on the ground and she died right outside the whelping box.

The last female also has a twin, they were given to a friend with the agreement that he give them back if he could no longer care for them. He decides to sell them to get some money for drugs. I was able to buy the female back but the guy that bought the male I haven't been able to contact. However, I do no he is being well cared for by the guy grandmother.

The brindle red nose was the only one in the litter that didn't have an identical twin although there was another red & white red nose that died a few days after birth. She actually shows the traits of her grand dam (Razor/Legend) blood..so you are absolutely correct on your guess Jack. Proving once again you are a man that knows your line of dogs.

P.S. don't you think the male pup look a little like Pheonix?