Anyone who's ever run a treadmill in a gym "moving a belt" will tell you it's a joke compared to actually running cross-country outside ...
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Very true, I can say that personally, when I trained for MMA I did my running outside only used my treadmill when it was raning and it never felt the same. Speaking of which, how much of human strength and conditioning could be used for a dog? Just wondering, which I could make a jenny nut the flirt pole will do for now.