Quote Originally Posted by TFX View Post

I have never heard of either dog you posted, nor have I heard of their parents. Of the 8 grandparents, I have only heard of 2 of them, Emmitt and Honey. If you are happy with the cross, that is all that matters. If you want "REAL DOG MEN'S" opinions, most real dogmen have probably won't have an opinion, because they have never heard of these dogs.
I second that motion.