Quote Originally Posted by Black Hand View Post
that's a far cry from a dog that has won 4.
It's not a far cry from a dog that's won 4. Ch.Dahmer was a dog that won 3, and pretty much did the exact same thing for his 4th. He was picked up while standing the line on his turn to scratch. 3x winners or 4x winners have quit throughout history and given bad signs when doing so, so it's not a far cry whatsoever.

R2L, the difference isn't as big as you may think. Ever seen a winning dog not run a courtesy scratch when the other dog quit already?