I appreciate your response Jack. His WIC is high. What's your thoughts on having a dog that tight? Any dog in general. Most dogs in his ped or just famous dogs in general are not that tight that ive seen. Most 20% and below. What effects would that have? If he turns out to be as good as I hope I planned on breeding him. With it being that tight. My plan is to take him to some heavy Chinaman or Frisco. I got access to a pup off Gr Ch Garners/GTOs Ceaser who appears to be a good one. I've seen him in person and liked him but never seen him perform. But I guess Gr Ch speaks for itself. I was just wondering your thoughts on dogs bred that tight in general. In 7 Gen I believe his WIC is 76 or 79% if I recall.