I do agree.. but in talking to Mr Garner, I know that he's bombarded with calls of non serious people asking dangerous or bogus questions. I can see how that would be aggravating at times. But on the flip side...he put himself in that roll. Double edged sword I guess. IMO he has owned, produced and still producing some world class dogs. I am not ashamed to say I own one and had a few more off his line in the past despite alot of controversy and people that dislike him. And I also know that alot of people that "Hate" on him couldn't even hold his leash so to speak lol. Me being one of them as I have nowhere near the experience as him or as some of you do on this forum. Its sad in general that this "use to be" a gentlemans dog/game. But truth is alot of that has been tarnished by alot of shady folks. Its a lying, cheating, crooked, paper hanging business for the most part...atleast what I've discovered. But he did me right and I can't complain at all. I've met a few good dogmen in the last 15 years of being involved with these dogs. Seems to be a rarity now days though. Hope to meet more on here as I'm new to the forum. Seems to be a good forum with legit folks on here that can teach alot to those like myself willing to learn. Y'all have a happy new year and keep up the good work! Cheers!