Quote Originally Posted by CitySwamp
H.B.K some good responses, i have a question though, if the ultimate test is the show, why do you need to have kill em in school? And if every time you taking something out of that animal, just as every boxing round takes something out of that boxer why kill in sparring then have nothing for show time? You gave an example of a test, pushing 5lbs for 35 mins, could you not see what you needed 15 mins prior? Normally if a dog off the chain, after a good 15 mins is starting to get tired a lil bit and if you placing them on a good one that is pressing and bringing action for 20 mins is that not enough to know if you can place a bet? I know a few people who dont show their bitches but instead basically "skull drag" their bitches and i ask them every time does that make her a better producer and did she not show enough heart befor she had to basically crawl across? I just dont see point in taking that much out of a hound whether preparing for show or brood pen.. Either it has the qualities you appreciate or it doesnt..

I think it dpends on the hound and what there showing throughout the contest. Ive seen hounds go for 15 min and knew there was something special in a hound, and other times it took that 35 min. I must say 15 min in no way is a game test and could never bring myself to take one to the box regardless how good they r in school on 15 min rolls. I understand the wear and tare hounds take in rolls so i dont believe in 3 and 4 rolls, give me a good 20 min first time and then a real hard game test and if all looks according then box time. In that hard game test do i want to take them to the brink of death NO, but if they make it throough it scratching then im pretty confident that scratching isnt goiing to be my problem. If i do take them there then its on me to make sure they make it back strong. And ur right i can see those qualities when it comes to ability, mouth, and intellegance in 15 20 min but i cant judge a hounds heart in that time and above all else gameness is most important!!! I also hear a lot that every dog will quit and that is a crook!!! It's a slap in the face to the hounds that have given there lives scratching. I have heard well they could of quit on the next scratch and all that is is a terrible injustice to that dg dogs heart. This was a dg dog who gave all she had and when no one else thought she could or would she made one of the gamest scratches u wcould ever see and gave her life doing it. http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... _id=342693

All in all every dogman has different criterias and different ways of schooling there hounds and thats what makes compition that much better.