Considering for me I have only seen this one time it is a moot point, but just for the purpose of education I would like to hear the thoughts. Like always, there was a "guy"...He had a female that had every major blood line out there in her. She was bought out of the newspaper. The young kid that bought her pawned her off on his Mom who could not handle a dog with that much energy. She was given away for free with two bags of dog food, an igloo, a welded steel wire kennel and a set of papers that was a who's who of the bull dog world, watered down to boot. Basically he 'helped' the lady out to get the $500 pen. This bitch dropped'em like flies. She won four with three [ ] RIP's. She had a sense of finish that was unreal. Relentless. She herself was all one could ask for on show night, and more. I would roll the dice on a bitch like this in a program. As expected, I would not look for consistency in every pup of every litter. So what would be the plan? Breed to certain areas of her pedigree and then bring those together as they work out? Or father-daughter breedings? Like I said, I know the obvious answers about the eventual waste of time but if one were to have seen her I believe even the most demanding breeder would try to work her into the program. EWO