I should have titled the post a little differently. I was aiming more toward the personal experiences of yesteryear (fat content) being proven or dis-proven (corn flakes) by science in more recent times. Not so much as one vs. the other. He fed a lot of fat because that was a lot of what was left over living on the farm. His dogs were successful with it. Just the same as the guy winning with corn flakes. Both were winning with good dogs first and foremost, but science caught up to both groups and pretty much said one works more than we thought (fat) and the other really has no benefit to the dog (corn flakes). EWO