Well Carl Mimi's called me tonight,he said Barney told him that buck or sandman were not worth saving.said it was a dull show a lot of laying around.and he confirmed JR NEVER WENT AGAINST BUCK.I think this will be my last post on the subject .I don't want to get anything started .i know evo has some good dogs.if anybody. Wants to know full details on Gaineys Jr .contact BFKC C.MIMMS. I am trying to get him to write a book.the man is full of history on the dogs .Ca Jack you need to get with him on a book deal ,with his history and your writing skills. Think about it.