Yeah well example most serious people are south so say i got 8000km round trip thats near $3000 in fuel plus the time and money spent getting ready say $4000 or $5000 just to show up and being a novice i dont expect to win but will give it my all just know i dont have the knowledge of experianced people so to bet say $1000 is to much i've already waisted a wedge just to make it there don't mind a forfeit of $1000 plus cause i know i will get there and learnt that is needed to weed out the shit talkers been bit already.. I thought it was about the dogs i know thats what gotten me interested if i wanted to gamble could go put my money in the poker machines...