I had 2 bitches off Ouch's last breeding. One past away 3 years ago and was a very good all around dog no mouth though. They were both Chocolate and worth feeding. Here is their pedigree:

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/mo ... _id=363637

My buddy bought Ouch from Hawaiian Punch Kennels and he lived until he was 10 I think.