scatter bred v's line bred

[pig mad]

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...reeding_id=122

The breeding is not far from related realy the skull dog is line bred ch bronco and bronco is already there then the redboy is on both sides aswell the only 1 i can't follow is through odens warrior but he was best roll dog of the area at the time. My bitch is outcross from gator blood to banjo cause of stamina but she got plenty of it to if she was still gator not outcross probably look better, Bronco/redboy/?/redboy/banjo/jeep with a splash of redboy and bronco in there already.
Main problem is i dont have room to keep em all and i feel that is whats needed but i have another bitch i am waiting to come in season i am more keen on that litter they are proven and tested all the way the litter that came out last night got a few pig dogs on fathers side wich leaves the doubt.. Just thinking out loud looking for opinions...

[pig mad]

This breeding was done for the other fella my bitch is lacking nothing she is an out already pretty much just payment to use 1 of his bitchs as out for my sorrells just wondering if it worth the gamble to keep a pup out of this litter. I will keep a bitch out of it i think..

[Officially Retired]

LMAO

[EWO]

So what happens when you end up with this scatter bred dog and he/she can really bring home the mail. What are some of the theories breeding this dog with multiple bloodlines. Do you pick one strain and concentrate on that? Do you pick the traits you desire and match those traits to the 'consistent' line within him/her and go that route? It is hard to know the history of the scatter bred dog so other than admitting to going in blind or guessing or playing the gamble which route?
EWO

[Officially Retired]

So what happens when you end up with this scatter bred dog and he/she can really bring home the mail.

I personally would never "end up with" a scatter-bred dog

What are some of the theories breeding this dog with multiple bloodlines. Do you pick one strain and concentrate on that? Do you pick the traits you desire and match those traits to the 'consistent' line within him/her and go that route? It is hard to know the history of the scatter bred dog so other than admitting to going in blind or guessing or playing the gamble which route?
EWO

I would really do my research on his immediate ancestors and determine if that dog is a "fluke" ... or if there were family members (brothers/sisters/mother+mates/sire+mates/ etc.) that carried those characteristics also.

If so, I would purchase/breed to those family members with those tratis; if not, I wouldn't personally waste my time breeding the dog and raising its offspring.

Jack

[Abe]

Following ewos question closely. What I think I've learned from the book is to inbreed as tight as you can on that one dog till you are able to create a nice foundation then line breed from there still as tight as possible. Find a similar female that carries traits that mimic the male then Take the offspring back to the one your trying to recreate. This is meant as a question if I understand correctly.

[Officially Retired]

Following ewos question closely. What I think I've learned from the book is to inbreed as tight as you can on that one dog till you are able to create a nice foundation then line breed from there still as tight as possible. Find a similar female that carries traits that mimic the male then Take the offspring back to the one your trying to recreate. This is meant as a question if I understand correctly.

Right.

After selecting those family members that possessed those traits (if any), I would then make strategic breedings to carry forward with and reproduce them.

After a couple years waiting for the resulting pups to grow up & get schooled, I would then select those offspring that possessed these key traits I was after ... and then start the next steps with my breeding program, using the 7 basic breeding patterns (and plugging-in the right dogs) to carry this torch.

Jack

[Abe]

Thanks for the link. Ive read that chapter more times then ill admit to but need to read it more. Someday it will all stick

[EWO]

Considering for me I have only seen this one time it is a moot point, but just for the purpose of education I would like to hear the thoughts. Like always, there was a "guy"...He had a female that had every major blood line out there in her. She was bought out of the newspaper. The young kid that bought her pawned her off on his Mom who could not handle a dog with that much energy. She was given away for free with two bags of dog food, an igloo, a welded steel wire kennel and a set of papers that was a who's who of the bull dog world, watered down to boot. Basically he 'helped' the lady out to get the $500 pen. This bitch dropped'em like flies. She won four with three [ ] RIP's. She had a sense of finish that was unreal. Relentless. She herself was all one could ask for on show night, and more. I would roll the dice on a bitch like this in a program. As expected, I would not look for consistency in every pup of every litter. So what would be the plan? Breed to certain areas of her pedigree and then bring those together as they work out? Or father-daughter breedings? Like I said, I know the obvious answers about the eventual waste of time but if one were to have seen her I believe even the most demanding breeder would try to work her into the program. EWO

[TFX]

Sounds similar to Rushin's GRCH 35 story. 35 never produced much for ol' Bill.