Just a bit of trivia for you fellas: In Silver's second show it took the Carlos dog 1:04 to win, later Black Mup faced Carlos and finished him in :30. I've also heard that Pera conditioned Silver for upwards of six months for the show, and that Toske was so confident in Black Mup that he only put two weeks of work in the dog. Could be excuses after the fact, I'm just intimating details that were shared with me.