Pirate was the real deal a 4xer owned by a fella in the northern states. All of his works were to good dogs. He was one hell of a producer for the amount of times he was bred. His son Chalky I think will surpass Pirate's ROM status though. I have been working with this blood since 2002 and love it. Put some old Maloney or Jeep / Rascal mix to this blood and you got fire.