As to not selling dogs . My family has never sold a dog since 1884 , first documented proof of ownership of the breed with in my family. My family is Irish Gypsy and believe it to be bad luck . I can put you in touch with dogmen who own my stock if you want their take lol The Red Devil dogs are smart , not dumb like Red Boy stock Mike mixed in . They are firing on all cylinders though when mixed with the Busenbark blood as soon as the air hits the lungs ! Last one I kept that came on biting everything , ya I dont like waiting . Some people like dogs that move like old people fucking . Not me .