this is true. this is why i don't breed a lot. why i like hard workers. i saw a guy bragging how his dog looked without doing work.these are the lazy fools that believe its the dog not the man. there's no consistency. they don't know their line ie average turn on times, traits etc. roll young and dump. Usually leads to dogs running loose in the streets. they don't know how to put a dog down, so they show up in shelters after surviving gunshot wounds. that's why i focus on a line. They are prob the reason stuff is illegal and should stay that way. Should be a way to let the responsible people do what needs to be done. I Know my dogs. You don't end up with a yard of 400 dogs while you try to find the superstars. They end up hoping on a superstar. even if they get a b grade dog that could be better with work they will loose to someone they should have beat. as it has been said “Hard work beats talent, when talent doesn't work hard.” Maybe people end up in prison who should be there. I wish sometimes the legalities were different. I have to fight the urge to call a weight when this guy thinks his dog will win because of who he's out of. I already know this story. Find a medium talented, super game dog with wind and brains. Get to 30 or 40 minutes and stop their rough curs left and right. Then you're this phenom. Now everybody wants to buy your dog. your name gets out there. Then peta comes. then irs, le etc. I long for the day it was a gentlemen's game. It prob was never a true gentlemen game. Just a game for rough type dues. Blacksmiths like tudor, coal miners etc etc instead of good people mixed in with drug dealers. Mayfield beat a lot of people with conditioning. One of the old time doggers said if Mayfield gets you to 30 minutes you're gonna loose just go ahead and pick up. You're right about the breeding thing. You try to work out places for dogs to go before they are born. Most of my litters from here on wont be fit for pet homes. Just hog hunters and historical aficionados. Its just funny when people hear a dog has a shitty work ethic and they want it thinking its some 15 minute killer. Makes me want to call weight and take their money. i know centipede didn't work. There are alway exceptions. He was a phenom. It would be dumb to breed a yard full of dogs with no work ethic.