Quote Originally Posted by CA Jack
Quote Originally Posted by Marooda
There is no such thing as a bad dog only irresponsible breeders and bad owners.[/i]
This is flat out untrue.

I guess you missed the part where Earl Tudor and myself have *both* have raised puppies from early-on to adulthood, the same way we've raised countless other happy loving pups, and these particular pups just grew up to be mankillers. It was simply in their nature.

Just because a dog is shy, or aggressive, doesn't mean it was "abused"; that is nothing but ignorant, tree-hugging propaganda.

The truth is, some dogs (just like some people) are simply genetic pieces of shit. Not every dog wants to be your friend, not every man wants to help little old ladies across the street. Some dogs want to kill you, and some men will invade homes of the elderly, steal from them, and kill them. This is why, when you have deviants like this, you kill them or get rid of them: they simply can't be trusted because they have malice in their hearts as part of their very nature.

I do agree that sometimes these defects can have to do with upbringing, but the simple fact is sometimes these things happen because the dog/man involved is just a defective, angry individual. The intelligent man would only keep a naturally-friendly, loving dog around his family, friends, and children. The fool is the one who leaves a naturally-angry animal alone with his family, friends, and children.

Jack
I am not talking about Genetics, I am talking about one animal, and that animal is the dog that the guy made the post about, I am referring to how he was describing the personality of his dog and based on what he said is the base of my conclusion. I understand you been through a lot with this amazing breed Jack and I respect you and your history and your knowledge, but it does not give you the right to title me a "Tree Hugger" or insinuate I am a "Tree Hugger" or accusing me of using "Tree Hugging Propaganda" this is my opinion and what I think based on my experience and based on talking to many 20 plus year dogmen and also using my common sense.
But Since you are referring to genetics, lets talk about that then, you said that "some dogs are genetic peices of shit" I agree with this, however if a one or two dogs out of a litter is a genetically unsound, the only thing that means to me, is that in that bloodline somewere there was heavy inbreeding and wasn't outcrossed before degeneration which greatly effects future litters. In my opinion, only hybrids dogs produce inconsistency in a litter, and one or two or three of those puppies will be bad apples. That is why I stated only true gamebred APBT will NOT show civil drive.

Let's say that one ABPT was indeed a man killer and wanted to kill a human with pure passion and focus and then wanted to eat the carcass afterwards, that also means something to me as well, that, that dog was MADE to be that way through either man made chemicals that altered the dog's brain housing group or pure abuse and yes that dog needs to be put down.