First of all, credit to you for posting the dogs ... although it would be helpful if you'd post the links to your dogs, so we can pull out the ol' microscope.Originally Posted by Hushman
Taz Loco,Holy Mary,Maya, Chuchillo,Fantasmo...Like I said just our way of doing things.But it works fr us,not knocking ANYBODYS ideas/methods.We're not "Breeders" ,nor do we sell dogs to the public
Taz Loco
Holy Mary
Fantasmo
I could only find 3 of the 5 dogs you posted, 2 of which were on the other site, so let us examine their quality and "greatness," objectively.
Objectively-speaking, from the 3 dogs you posted, whose links I could find, there are 2 wins, 3 losses (all game).
That is a 40% win record, a 60% loss record, and a 100% "show game" record.
It seems like you have got an outstanding, consistent idea about gameness, and have that key aspect under control, which is awesome.
However, it seems you have a lot of room for improvement when it comes to the ability to win
Maybe the other dogs I couldn't find will bring up your quotients, I don't know, but (based on what I could find) your dogs' win record is actually below average.
In order to win more than you lose, you need other key factors besides "being checked" for gameness.
However, your gameness percentages are OUTSTANDING, and hey, that is where everything starts IMO.
If you keep your gameness percentages, and (through expert selection) double your % win record, do you think your dogs will be "worth more" than the average guy selling dogs?
Because that is about where I was, when I stopped breeding dogs, 87% win record/92% win-or-show-game, over 20 years and several hundred fights, so I think even a green guy breeding two dogs he got from me should still be able to charge more for his pups than some bozo breeding mix-bred mutts together.
Maybe the green guy, if he doesn't know what he's looking for, will ruin the quality over time ... but that part is on him.
I still think WELL BRED dogs of this breed deserve a price that justifies what they go through to be able to produce.
People who buy dogs "to go through them" NEVER really succeed.
People who buy dogs AS INVESTMENTS to build their yard up, are the ones who make it off the ground and eventually take off.
That has been my repeated and consistent observation.
Ultimately, there is a difference between a guy who buys dogs just to fight, a guy who buys dogs to build his yard up and really get a group of great dogs for his own success, and a guy who buys dogs just to breed/sell dogs (with no thought of selection/quality).
It has always been pretty obvious to me who-was-who ...
Anyway, take care.
Jack
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