It's a rough crowd PBC!

Really dude, I mean you have CA Jack, Evolution Kennels, Randy Fox, and a whole bunch of other good dogmen AND women on here who actually have shown and bred winners, champions, grand champions, ROM and POR dogs, and done it for decades. I was in the dogs beginning in the 80's, 90's 00's, and am still here hanging by a thread in the 10's, but I am a veritable nobody and don't claim to be. My dogs on the other hand have proven their worth to those who know what's up.

If I were a guy in your shoes today like I was in the 80's, I'd be wearing out the God Damned keyboard or telephone out trying to get dogs from any of these people. I say that because that is what I did, and the dogs I have now are closely related to dogs I had in the 80's, and directly descended from a bitch I acquired in 1990. The good news is there is hope for you! I wasted 10 years or so being a dumbass too, EVEN though I did take that good first step. It is well within the power of anyone on this site to be a top notch dogman in a matter of a couple of few years. The biggest variable is assimilating the information from the opportunity and privilege it is to be in a place where this much good information is shared freely, or for the nominal price of subscription. I have seen guys come around and ask these same questions since I got on the internet in 1996. Most of them didn't even get as far as good answers. You are well past that already, now put them to use.