Quote Originally Posted by CYJ View Post
Bently, this dog is badly deformed in the front end, for what ever reasons. That dog can not take any serious work. My brother many years back had a little black/white bitch bred off Tramp Red Boy x W. Martin's lady.

This bitch was well built and could mop up the floor with anything her size. When trying to work her in a pre keep. She showed to have a bad joint in her back leg or what is called a gimp leg. Was of no avail what ever we tried, the defect was inherited. We did not breed her but used her for a roll dog.

I would not breed this dog since he may pass this defect into the puppies. Use him as a roll dog, but doubt it can be properly conditioned.

Fellows no matter how we feel or disagree. If everyone is going to start using vulgar and profane language to express one's self to each other. Why bother to leave on lines pedigree site? There one can talk common as they like to each other and even post any sort of Porno they like and even harassment type attacks. I was hoping this site would stay civil no matter how one may feel.

Standard's of a good dog man is not always how many dogs one shows or wins or loses. Some do better at the breeding aspect while others do better at the showing aspect. Not many can do it all and keep down a full time job. Cheers
the dog in the pic is not the deformed one. that is a female i posted because jack complained about her setup being so bad. She is not deformed its just the way the pic was taken, this bitch in the pic is gunpowder, she is very athletic and strong, no problems with her, although its her littermate brother who is deformed. i will post a pic

and man i am usually cool on this board, i dont crtitize no one or there dogs, because you u never know another mans situation.on this flip side, jack always has this urge to crtitise someone or something if it isnt the way he does it or wants it to be. I mean how dare you critisize me as a dog man and my dogs. I mean lets all rememeber where we all came from "JACK".

With all due respect he is very smart and always can provide help in just about any situation but why always critisize someone because it isnt the way you want it to be. Worry bout your own hounds not others, i mean i can care less about the other mans dogs, long as i know my dogs are ok. I apologize for the bad charecter but he really pissed me off that time.