Well Damn, now I really feel old. I guess 2004 was a few years ago now. The good ones win with a good conditioner, the great ones win in spite of their owners. Awesome beast and machobuck won in spite of their owners. To make champion, travel 24 hours to win #4 six weeks later, then #5 just 8 weeks after that is a testament to the dogs greatness. Awesome beast was campaigned in relatively the same manner, an and that's why I respect him so much.