Simple fone rang from one of the workers to say the dogs got loose and started fighting a few moments. took 3 hours to get to the yard asked the boys how long before the call came did they start fighting they said around 7 minutes. I have nothing to gain by talking crap. Im am hear to learn and the one dog who's ped i posted was still in hold. In a hot spot but still in hold. Other one looked dead but was not