pedigree database

[Officially Retired]

what about other people taking and making peds under your dogs name or alias? This is happening to others including me. I feel if you post you better have a true pedigree and not post other peoples hounds. There is a false pedigree on my Jesse hound. He is listed to have been born in 2009 when on his A.D.B.A paperwork it says 2006 and I called the good ol timer who did the breeding and the breeding in fact was done in 2006. If a real dog man does his research and gets information from the source vs people that bought dogs just to peddle it'll help them in the long run. I have talked to people that bought hounds and did breeding with them and lied about them ever being bred or the number of time they were bred. Really makes for a heated moment.

I know things like this can get frustrating, and what it is going to take is a team of knowledgeable fanciers working to keep things straight.

Sometimes you can't blame the guy entering the ped, as he might not know any better, and is just entering-in what he has in front of him. Other times, it is a deliberate transgression by a liar.

One thing I do know is that I will have harsh penalties for abuse. Intentionally lying about pedigrees, or talking trash on other people's pedigrees, will not be tolerated.

And yet, the user (especially if he's sold dogs before) will have to realize sometimes people make mistakes, and realize that at some point honest disputes can arise, where nobody has done anything wrong, it's all just a misunderstanding. I myself have people making mirror dogs of Poncho (and Silverback), and have had many people post duplicate dogs of mine on the other site, but I am not going to let it bother me.

On here though, when my database is up, honest mistakes will be handled gracefully for the benefit of all, while intentional transgressions can cause a member to be suspended or banned. There is simply no need, nor any excuse, for intentional bullshit ... but there is also no need to get upset over honest mistakes.

Jack


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[Officially Retired]

It's a shame the other place has gone downhill so fast...
the webmaster refuses to edit or delete false pedigrees, and instead just takes our money.
We pay for a pedigree database and the forum is just an added perk, but the database has gotten out of control. Jack, congratulations on the new board and I'm looking forward to seeing the new database up and running. It's been a long time coming, keep up the good work!

Thank you very much for your thoughts, and thank you also for your support.

I intend the database to be visually attractive, as well as functionally-accurate, and will do my best to keep things ordered straight. I have some other ideas as well, that will help things run smoothly, and as things progress I will also be open for user issues that pop-up, so it will be an ongoing, evolving process.

Thanks again,

Jack


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[HOGBIZ]

To Evolution what is the difference between the paid version of PEDWIN and the free download before I waste my time building on it?

To Jack, one of my biggest things with POL is there will be 3 different versions of a dog entered by 3 different people, then 4 people entering dogs off 3 different peds so there is no true reflection of a dog, its off spring and it's siblings.

I wish there was a pop-up that said, "This dog has already been entered".

[HOGBIZ]

Another thing you might want to consider Jack, when you print a ped, it have a url to a public link that prints on the ped, unlike POL. That could do nothing more than drive more business you way as well.

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To Evolution what is the difference between the paid version of PEDWIN and the free download before I waste my time building on it?
To Jack, one of my biggest things with POL is there will be 3 different versions of a dog entered by 3 different people, then 4 people entering dogs off 3 different peds so there is no true reflection of a dog, its off spring and it's siblings.
I wish there was a pop-up that said, "This dog has already been entered".

The unfortunate reality is people can't spell. Therefore, even with a computer-generated warning of "duplicate ped," one man can still enter Crenshw's Honeybunch, another may enter Crenshaws Honeybunch, and a third may enter Crenshaw's Honeybunch ... and there is no way for a computer program to catch the flaws, because the first entry is missing an "a," the second entry is missing an apostrophe, and only the third is spelled correctly.

And, after tens of thousands (hundreds of thousands) of dogs get entered, there is no way to keep track of all of that. The only way to address this is to 1) make sure all of the core dogs are spelled correctly and NOT duplicated, and 2) handle each case individually. There will have to be a few trusted members of the site acting as "quality control" eventually.

Another thing you might want to consider Jack, when you print a ped, it have a url to a public link that prints on the ped, unlike POL. That could do nothing more than drive more business you way as well.

That is a good idea, thanks.

Jack


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[evolutionkennels]

My opinion, only my opinion is that if its a "proposed breeding" or a "just looking" breeding. It should have a different color code or at a very minimum only be visible to the person making the "proposed" breeding. That would kill two birds with one stone, the person seeing how the dogs stack up can view it all he wants. The person who is the owner of the dog doesnt have to worry about fake breedings done under his dog. If an "actual" breeding is made with the dog, then the payer of the stud fee can post that pedigree. For me, that is ideal, now i dont know what programing constraints this may have , but it would be ideal. Just my opinion.

[Officially Retired]

My opinion, only my opinion is that if its a "proposed breeding" or a "just looking" breeding. It should have a different color code or at a very minimum only be visible to the person making the "proposed" breeding. That would kill two birds with one stone, the person seeing how the dogs stack up can view it all he wants. The person who is the owner of the dog doesnt have to worry about fake breedings done under his dog. If an "actual" breeding is made with the dog, then the payer of the stud fee can post that pedigree. For me, that is ideal, now i dont know what programing constraints this may have , but it would be ideal. Just my opinion.

That is an excellent idea, and if it is possible we will definitely implement it.

I appreciate everybody providing suggestions like this, because it will only help to provide the best resource possible, so keep them coming!

Jack

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[evolutionkennels]

When posting a pedigree.. you can have two selections "actual breeding" or "proposed" whether it is a drop down menu or a check mark a click on the dot.

[evolutionkennels]

The paid version is infinite records. The non paid limits to 100. There is a trick to it though. I paid for it and LOVE the program