Let's see those chain/kennel/pen setups
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Let's see those chain/kennel/pen setups
I keep em in a 300x200cm kennel, grizzly doghouse with a "cat flap" and a galvanized 120x80cm wooden platform. Would like to have a massive concrete floor which is more hygienic and easier to clean but that would be a major operation and the house is only for rent. Hope to get some ideas for when i found a new/bigger place
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Those are actually really, really nice professional-looking setups man. They look fantastic! The only thing I don't like are for 2 things: 1) the wood flooring as you mentioned and 2) the limited space the dogs have to live in. For those in the United States, 300 cm x 200 cm is only about 10ft x 6 ft, which is pretty small quarters @ only 60 square feet of living space for each dog to live its life in. Other than that, you couldn't ask for a nicer-looking kenneling system.
Still, overall (when looking at a cost + quality-of-life-for-the-dog aspect), the best way to keep dogs is on a good ol-fashioned chain spot. I typically have my chains at 12' which (if the surface area of a circle is 3.14 x r2) affords 452 sq. ft of space for each dog to live in:
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/postphotos/chainspot.jpg
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I do agree that the dogs living in the dirt isn't all that sanitary either, and a person really has to keep up on his worming protocol, but the room they have to run around on makes it worthwhile. Not to mention the fact a dog has the chance to "be a dog" in that he can run around, dig, bark at squirrels, etc.
I can also say this with authority too: plastic barrel houses rule. The top photo was taken of Dirty Hammer in 2008, right after I finished making that nice wooden house, while the bottom photo was taken in 2007 of houses I made back in 2002. It is now 2012, and that wooden house has long since been destroyed, while the plastic barrel houses look exactly the same now, 10 years later. Not a bad investment for about $5/barrel, about 40-min of time, and another $5 in hardware :D
Jack
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I get a 20ft tow chain from home depot and cut it in half. They are about 35$. The houses are the 2 room kind. The barrel of water is only for playing in. The water bowl is about a 1/3 of a bag of concrete. The shade board is a full sheet with 2X4's on each side for strength. Each set up is a little expensive but I really like them. As long as you have good keepers then they will last you a considerable while. If you have some Knuckle heads then I would clearly not spend this kinda cash on the setup.
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I have some of Jacks houses on the other side of the yard. Will try and take some picks later.
Chain::: 17.50
House:: 75.00
hardware 30.00
shade board 25.00
bowl 10.00
about 150 apiece but I think well worth it.
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Digging it down 1 foot and screwing a 2X4 across the bottom so they cant kick it out. The location is a old gravel pit so the ground is near perfect. It is 16X12X6 and is 9 gauge wire.
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These are the above grounds I use inside the house. This little sucker is a pretty tough keeper for his age. Daddy's little killer. 8):lol:
agree Jack, but this is the most i can offer them for now. i walk each every day as well so they have all the chances of being a dog. i think if the kennels are 300x400cm they still won't move allot more, those 360 chain setups are allot better.
lol ScratchAndGO. that setup looks very good as well. nice stairways to the roof, hehe. they love it up there too
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Hahaha. :cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScratchAndGO
R2L space is much more expensive here, also the way you keep a dog differs. Nice kennels !
repaired the wooden doghouse again. next time he destroys someting im going to call the A team and pancer it totaly
http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img1/20120326/492115.jpg
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Very clean and professional-looking set-up man.
My only criticism would be there doesn't seem to be a "soft spot" for any of the dogs (no straw/shavings, etc.). Would be rough on a young dog I would think (would lead to sores callouses, etc.), and would be even rougher on an elderly dog.
I think you'd be doing your dogs a favor by having a nest in their house, cedar shavings at least.
But the setup itself looks great.
Jack
Thanks, i removed the straw last month cause it stopped freezing, now i put this:
http://www.uploadplaatjes.nl/img1/20120327/493323.jpg
You think that'll do?
The platform should be better on the joints then the stone if they want to lay outside the house.
R2L Very nice and clean set up.
I have those bath maths in the crates inside the house. Got them of a friend and must say they are really nice. Especially when you got a few terrorist dogs that ruin every other in house bedding you offer.
hehe nice, don't how to pronounce mine"vetbed" help me out Nash. realy cheap as well. was thinking to put some new straw in but that will probably be to hot in the summer and it seems like he enjoys hanging in the entrance on the wood the most.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nash
I think those are bathing maths buddy, i believe the English word for what you're trying to refer to is whelping pads. The ones you got there are stitched al around, i've never seen whelping pads like that before. Anyways, i would try to find blankets for the doghouse, cotton, the rougher the better. Wash them every 2 or 3 weeks if you got a dryer. Good alternative if you don't want to use shavings or straw. Makes for a nice soft bedding for the dogs. And if they get moist you just hang them out over the kennel to dry every now and than.
lol these are one of the most used beddings for dogs, u never seen them before :mrgreen:
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ill try to find some cotton blankets. my ikea blankets were already destroyed :angry:
The reason why the dog lies on wood, is because it is softer than concrete or metal. A mat is a step in the right direction, but I don't think it really is a "soft spot" for the animal. (Would you like to sleep on your carpet or a welcome mat?)Quote:
Originally Posted by R2L
I do agree straw would be too warm for summer, which is why I suggested cedar shavings instead. Fresh cedar shavings also repel fleas, ticks, flies, etc.
Cotton blankets are a very bad idea fellas, I personally know of someone who lost his best female from her eating a cotton blanket that he put down for her bedding.
In the summer months, those vetbeds that R2L posted are excellent, durable and very easy to clean.
the reason he hangs in the entrance is because he likes to watch outside mainly ^^
my older dog likes to sleep on the stones outside all day, while he can walk freely to the couch inside or a big pillow.
let's not act like they are poodles but i always like to improve my setup if possible. what is cedar exactly??? ill look into that
good input!Quote:
Originally Posted by MTK
True, there are dogs that eat blankets. Heard of that before, mine doesn't so it's all good.
Those beddings he uses could be eaten also, in fact most fabrics. Those whelping beds were torn to pieces by the pups here. So maybe best to get the cedar shavings indeed.
Whatever man. You know i keep goats. :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by R2L
What is considered the best possible flooring for chain set ups?
Very nice looking spot bud.
I don't have experience with chain spots, are those rocks alright ? No problem to the dogs ?
That is looking great, but how hygenic is it.. u cant wash the pee and poo rests off, only down.
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The tarp will prevent the weeds and grass from rising. And any liquid goes right through it, and into the ground...
The rocks are ok, id go with a smaller rock size in the future though. The pee just goes right through the rocks and then with the rain to get it good... nice and clean... and i feed raw so the shit just stays on top of the rocks nice and firm...
Never any puddles or muddy water.. its real nice. i am pleased.
Note: the only reason that you see some weeds/grass in the first pics that i posted is because i had to dig up these rocks myself , so they had soil in them.
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a couple of bags of lime for any odors.
so when i got them, they had weeds inbetween with dirt/soil etc. but its all good...
and thank u.
smells fresh, looks clean, no health problems... all good....
Looks good man. Indeed a smaller rock perhaps. idk.
ok sounds good thanks for sharing
I have gravel in my kennels. It works a natural drainage. We get rain on a regular basis and smell is never an issue for me.
The dog on that set up kept sleeping on the wood in the entrance of the doghouse, he never went in to sleep on the mat. even when i put multiple on top of eachother. I think he didnt enter the "accual sleeping part" of his doghouse for a month since i removed the straw. So i decided to put back the straw in today, if it will be warm soon he can lay in the entrance and outside anyway. Guess what, within an hour he disappeared to sleep inside the house :cheers: Regret i removed it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Like I said, at the end of a long day, a mat is a poor substitute for a soft nest :)
copied from a European board for whoever is interested
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Our winters can be long and VERY cold (-40 is not un common) and lets face it , keeping the dogs housed properly can be a challenge when it gets that cold out... One alternative to building a wooden insulated house is to get ahold of a small deep freezer (It doesn't need to work as you'll be removing the motor anyways).
Some benefits of using the deepfreeze dog house are ,they are completely waterproof , it's already insulated , ** it has a hinged top thats sealed so you can open the lid when its time to change out their bedding or wash it when needed** , the only wood needed is to go inside the opening thats been cut in one of the ends so they dont cut themselves on any sharp edges etc..
These setups will last MANY years and are surprisingly light so one person can skid them around when you have to clean the yard etc..
Simply cut out an opening in one end , line the opening with some wood and add a flap to keep the wind out.
Seeing as you don't need a working freezer , they can usually be picked up for free , so the only cost is the material for the opening
http://smart-knl.com.ua/forum/index....pe=post&id=701
http://smart-knl.com.ua/forum/index....pe=post&id=702
We recently moved and are in the process of getting our yard set again. We wish we had the room to do chain set ups but we are using kennels to conserve space.
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This is a chain link kennel from TSC reinforced from the inside with 14 gauge welded deer wire. Barrel house with cedar shavings and 12x12 red concrete pavers for the flooring. Kennel was $280, deer fencing was $35, and stones were 1.30 a piece x 100 makes the flooring $130. We like the Magnum kennels but this is literally half the price and if we want to get a double gate panel to make this 10x10 two 10x5s it'll cost us 165 instead of 360.
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I set up a spring pole inside the kennel, its kinda jimmy rigged right now until I go get a bigger spring and longer rope toy. Notice the nice hard turd in the kennel from their raw diet.
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This is the dog septic tank which is also visible in the first pick. This is our first experience with the septic tank but all the videos on you tube say its great. I still have four more kennels to set and am going to place stone lined paths to all of them so updated pics will be posted with progress.
A very thoughtful setup ... but it has one glaring flaw: no roof!!
If those were Poncho puppies, they would have already scaled that fence and been lost in the woods ... and it is only a matter of time before some of those pups figure out how to do this themselves.
To complete the project, I would strongly suggest you get a roof on that ASAP.
Nice setup otherwise :D
Jack
Structure of the fence also makes it easy to climb, but thats a very fine space for a dog imo, nice proper setup
Might want to put cinder blocks on the outside of the fence too :idea:
Guess I should have mentioned that I have pen covers on order and they should be here Wednesday. Found them on Amazon for $25 which is way cheaper than anything else I have seen. Thanks for the input.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Two room insulated dog houses. These are fresh spots since I moved the pups to chains. Any suggestions on what I can lay down on the ground (gravel, pea stones, rock dust) due to the land getting ''marshy'' after rain? All are on 1/4" 12ft chains except one that is on a 10' chain.
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The only house that requires shade. I need to do something better without losing the capability to remove the roof of the house. I have to fix the shade pallet every 2 days or so because she knocks it over.
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The houses:
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Freshly built:
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Kennel I built inside the garage for various uses; whelping, weaning, confinement, dog in a keep, etc...
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And the outside:
http://i1003.photobucket.com/albums/...e2/kennel2.jpg
I get a lot of leaves because there's a huge tree right next to the garage. This was taken right after we set it up. I'll put a roof on it at some point, but none of my dogs are climbers, so it's not a situation for me right now.
Great setup what type of plywood did use to make the dog houses ?