Father/daughter or half bro/half sis when trying to double up on a key dog? The key dog is the father
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Father/daughter or half bro/half sis when trying to double up on a key dog? The key dog is the father
father/daughter then father/granddaughter to get your key dog
All of these are valid.
There is no "one" best way.
The Art of Breeding Dogs
always been a fan of half brother x half sister.. female out of this back to father
Litter mate brother/sister back to grandfather
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Originally Posted by ASAP
I use breeding patterns to establish & maintain my line of dogs. So did allot of others.
2 examples of breeding in patterns. One is Hicks Bone Spur the other is Burt Sorrell's CH Uncle Bud.
If you were to follow how Sorrell's Red Jerry is bred in Uncle Bud pedigree & Follow how Hicks Crossfire is bred is Hicks Bone Spur you'll see a simular breeding pattern used by both breeders. This breeding pattern allows to maintain a certain % of a specific dog while adding new blood to same family.
You read pedigrees from left-right not right to left. You focus more on the patterns used not the name of the dogs. Do these things & you'll be amazed how you can better develop your family of dogs.
Example #1 http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=575181
Example#2 http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...ee&dog_id=6836.
Here's a 3rd Example . If you look @ Unlce Buds Sire you'll see one male bred to 3 females. Used 2 belly mates to get simular style of breeding.
I used 2 males instead of 1 to get & keep more Vigor.
Example#3 http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...&dog_id=575184
No more than I breed, this is my favorite as well.
EWO
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Originally Posted by CrazyRed
Personally, I think the dog/dogs being bred to one another or back into a key dog are just as important. I get guys talking about doubling up or inbreeding dogs all the time not considering the weaknesses of the animals of emphasis. I think dogs of emphasis should be special dogs. Dogs of excellence. Not dogs of a blood.
I have an excellent male right now who is special. It's apparent, his special traites and qualities are from his grandmother b/c every dog I have that has her in their 3rd or closer, act like him (more specifically HER). So, it's obvious, I need to breed him back to her on her next heat. However, if HE himself weren't special, why breed him back to where that specialness comes from? I don't think it should be done. End up going through a lot of questions with the offspring. I plan to take this special dog, who has same traits as he special grandmother and then inbred a male and female off of that back to both of them. I will also make my selections based on dogs that exhibit the exact same traits that make both of these dogs special. I will not randomly choose one b/c it's out of that litter. Confirmation, intelligence, traits, etc. should all be considered.
JMHO
I've always had the best luck by breeding my best dogs to each other. If they happen to be related or closely related, that makes it even better. Most every time I have tried to breed based on how a pedigree looks with any compromise to that, I usually do not do as well. I know it may sound cliche, but it has been my experience.
That is my favorite pattern.
LOL...I'm with you Osage
Had a guy tell me one time.....breed your best dogs to your best dogs. THEN, got look at the pedigree and see what you've done
I probably have more experience breeding dogs than anyone posting on here, most especially interbreeding the same group of dogs together ... SUCCESSFULLY (translation: winning 87% of the time, losing only 13% of the time) ... for over 20 years.
How "happy" you are with "your pups" doesn't mean dogshit, quite frankly.
The REAL question is, CAN YOU SEND YOUR DOGS TO **ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD** AND WILL THEY GET OFF THE PLANE AND **WIN** 9x OUT OF 10, REGARDLESS OF WHO HAS THEM OR WHAT THEY GO INTO? :idea::idea::idea:
If you can't answer, YES ... then shut up :idea:
That said, interbreeding *BOTH* family *AND* traits is the key to *LONG TERM* success ... and the rest of the flash-in-the pan shit doesn't matter.
Jack
LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Are you laughing at your own production record?Quote:
Originally Posted by treezbulldogs
I am sure it is a joke ...