Trying not to get bit?!?!?!

Good morning everybody... This is my first post on the board and I'm glad to be here. Seems to be more useful information. Anyway, I have some very high strung animals that will bite when they want to be let go. It's not a problem with the smaller ones, they are 41 lbs and 38 lbs... I have trouble with the big boy at 52 lbs chain weight. The latter is a gorilla. Very calm and laid back until it's time to play and he turns it up, wwaaaaayyyyyy up. I do certain things to increase their prey drive and I have one he'll of a time breaking him and holding him afterwards. I wanna get a grip on this before I start his schooling. He will be 14 months old next month. From what I understand, this line of dogs is known for that and like I said, it's not a problem with the smaller ones, that big boy gives me a world of trouble. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

I am as anti-man biter as any one out there. The most important thing to do is to figure out why. For some it does not matter but for me I like to know why before I take action. If you have worked him for an object and you are between him and the object, and he misses the object and gets you, well, pardon me, but that is your fault. If he is biting to be released then that is a different issue altogether. As the owner you have to decide where the limit is. In all the years and all the dogs I have only had one that had to be corrected. My advice would be to keep spinning him up and keep correcting him or letting him know what he is doing is wrong. And build from there. If it persists you will have to make a decision.

Thanks for the response EWO... I am also anti man biter as well; however in this instance, that's not the case... I have a small [] in my garage that I use to kinda condition their mind so to speak... In the opposite corner is usually some kind of small rodent like rabbit, possum, whatever I can catch with my little trap... After working them on the hide they usually are wide open and turned up... I simply take them in and let them go across a few times... Now after breaking him off, I catch pure hell trying to get him back to the corner... He will grab my pants, the stick, whatever he can to get loose and it's simply a headache trying to get him back over there. I was talkn to a friend and he recommended using a leash until I get it all the way figured out. I like the intensity, as the owner and handler I have to find a way to correct the problem. I definitely wouldn't consider him a man biter... I have 3 young kids and I simply will not put up with that.

Maybe you change your grip or the way you hold him as you go back. I have had a few that I thought it crossed their mind but never really had to deal with it to a serious note. I would think using a leash would give him more mobility, even if you tried to hold it out away from you. With this type of issue I would want my hands on him, a good handful of skin on the neck where I could control his head. Hopefully you can get it worked out. Best of luck. EWO

That's exactly how I handle the smaller ones with no problem. I'll get it worked out, I'm smarter than the dog. just figured I'd ask for a few tips...

I ve had a few that as soon as they where wide open on varmint they became nippy. I was never able to break that habit out of them completely. it took queit sometime and a lot of talking2 to get them calm anuf to handle with no problems tho. other than that I don't keep H.A dogs on my yard

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Originally Posted by luvmybulldogs

Thanks for the response EWO... I am also anti man biter as well; however in this instance, that's not the case... I have a small [] in my garage that I use to kinda condition their mind so to speak... In the opposite corner is usually some kind of small rodent like rabbit, possum, whatever I can catch with my little trap... After working them on the hide they usually are wide open and turned up... I simply take them in and let them go across a few times... Now after breaking him off, I catch pure hell trying to get him back to the corner... He will grab my pants, the stick, whatever he can to get loose and it's simply a headache trying to get him back over there. I was talkn to a friend and he recommended using a leash until I get it all the way figured out. I like the intensity, as the owner and handler I have to find a way to correct the problem. I definitely wouldn't consider him a man biter... I have 3 young kids and I simply will not put up with that.

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Hello & thanks for getting your feet wet :D

Regarding your question, since it's only training and your dog is just geeked-up (and not a true manbiter), my input would be to do the same thing you'd do when breeding an unruly bitch ... put an Elizabethan collar on him :idea:

However, a geeked-up bulldog is always a danger to kids, so if your dog is extreme you might want to give/sell him to someone withou them ...

Good luck,

Jack

I have a big boy who tries to nip when he's cranked up and wants to be released, I just hold him by his waist with my legs and hold the skin on the both sides of his neck so he can't nip me. Works well.

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Hello & thanks for getting your feet wet :D

Regarding your question, since it's only training and your dog is just geeked-up (and not a true manbiter), my input would be to do the same thing you'd do when breeding an unruly bitch ... put an Elizabethan collar on him :idea:

However, a geeked-up bulldog is always a danger to kids, so if your dog is extreme you might want to give/sell him to someone withou them ...

Good luck,

Jack

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Considering you have children at home, I have to agree with Jack’s second suggestion.

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

a geeked-up bulldog is always a danger to kids, so if your dog is extreme you might want to give/sell him to someone withou them ...

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We had one I wish I had done just that for, but instead we held on to him because of his promise, only to cull him when he did what I trusted would never transpire. Something’s just aren't worth it and though it’s your decision to make friend, just remember in the end, it’s your decision to live with.

I hope and wish you the very best with your hounds and may God keep you and your family blessed.

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Luv, there are a lot of bulldogs that will do that kind of thing. The dog certainly isn't a manbiter. I can't even tell you how many dogs I've owned that would try and bite someone to get loose. I would never do what you're doing in regards to small animals and what not. The dog will get enough of that in his lifetime, and in the end, it's not going to make him any better or any gamer in the end.

I understand it won't make them "gamer".... That isn't what Im trying to do. I realize the dog is gonna be what it's gonna be but I don't feel what I'm doing will hurt them either. And for the record, whatever they catch, they get to eat and I use the hide to flirt them with, even if the hide tears up in a day or to, it's used.