>>> PEDIGREES (DUPLICATES, NAME CHANGES etc.) THAT NEED DELETING OR FIXING <<<

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Originally Posted by Osagedogman2015

Please look at the pedigree for Fox's Dottie. I guarantee that Tudor's Red isn't bred that way...lol... He is way back in the pedigree of my dogs and Hunter Red wasn't even thought of at that point. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how he was actually bred. My ADBA pedigree doesn't go back that far.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=12346

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I spoke to Randy and he believes Dottie was off Toot so I changed the pedigree to reflect that.

The ped for Red could either be no known parents or Red could possibly be Williams' Red Tudor?
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=12347

S_B

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Originally Posted by S_B

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Originally Posted by Osagedogman2015

Please look at the pedigree for Fox's Dottie. I guarantee that Tudor's Red isn't bred that way...lol... He is way back in the pedigree of my dogs and Hunter Red wasn't even thought of at that point. Unfortunately, I cannot tell you how he was actually bred. My ADBA pedigree doesn't go back that far.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=12346

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I spoke to Randy and he believes Dottie was off Toot so I changed the pedigree to reflect that.

The ped for Red could either be no known parents or Red could possibly be Williams' Red Tudor?
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=12347

S_B

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Hi;

Please do not change a pedigree here based on nothing but someone saying, "I believe ..." that is NOT enough evidence to change a document.

The actual breeder, remembering definitively, is direct evidence, but asking someone who had nothing to do with the breeding ... and who, by saying, "I believe," is therefore actually guessing ... is not sufficient evidence to change a pedigree here.

At the end of the day, "Tudor's Red" was simply entered by a lemming who was not thinking and was following a bad pedigree on Peds Online and so has been deleted.

IN FACT, Fox' Dottie was actually sired by Tudor's Red Bill, and I have has been changed Dottie's pedigree to reflect her true breeding.

Jack

Thanks guys.

I have seriously thought about contacting the ADBA and asking for some pedigree information on some of my dogs ancestors. It would be nice to have the information that is on file with them instead of relying on something that may have been entered by a lemming following bad information. I sure as hell don't want to be the lemming.....and it could help with filling in other dogs pedigrees as well.

Thank you both too.

Nice to have you onboard Osage, you seem like you're a contributor, which is what we need more of :-bd

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Hi;

Please do not change a pedigree here based on nothing but someone saying, "I believe ..." that is NOT enough evidence to change a document.

The actual breeder, remembering definitively, is direct evidence, but asking someone who had nothing to do with the breeding ... and who, by saying, "I believe," is therefore actually guessing ... is not sufficient evidence to change a pedigree here.

At the end of the day, "Tudor's Red" was simply entered by a lemming who was not thinking and was following a bad pedigree on Peds Online and so has been deleted.

IN FACT, Fox' Dottie was actually sired by Tudor's Red Bill, and I have has been changed Dottie's pedigree to reflect her true breeding.

Jack

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Jack where did you get your information on Dottie being off Red Bill?

I didn't ask Randy if he bred Dottie, but he owned her...

S_B

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Originally Posted by S_B

Jack where did you get your information on Dottie being off Red Bill?

I didn't ask Randy if he bred Dottie, but he owned her...

S_B

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I got it from the Dog Archives Pedigree.

It also makes sense, seeing as Red Bill was sired by Dibo out of Spotty ... and the bitch's name was Dotty :)

Lots of dogmen combine names to name the offspring of what they like best.

Jack

I found a duplicate pedigree for the Clyde dog. I'm not sure which way it should be spelled, but it looks like that is why there are two of them.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=44687

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=25790

And thanks for the kind comment above Jack. It is hard not to appreciate the magnitude of what this pedigree program can do. If I can add to it, or be a part of it in any way, that is what I want to do.

Here is another one I stumbled across. This is the same dog.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=42091

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48840

Just one more for you guys.....

There are two pedigrees for Langston's Liz/Peterson's Liz. My ADBA pedigrees show her registered name as Langston's Liz # 22500-41.

There is also another one named Peterson's Big Liz and I don't know for sure if it the same dog or not, but it probably is. I just don't know for certain.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=42089

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=20444

This is the pedigree for Big Liz.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=14401

Looks like there are 2 pedigrees showing for Rebel Kennel's Sundance --

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...php?dog_id=617

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...hp?dog_id=4399

I visited Mr. Morgan back in the late 1970s and saw Morgan's Sandy and her son Morgan's Rocky, both were powerfully built black dogs. He also had his house dog Morgan's Rovette, she was the first Heinzl bred bulldog I ever saw, which led to my interest in Heinzl dogs. I need to look thru my old 35mm photos and see if I have any photos of Morgan's dogs.