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Re: The X Factor
So the old find yourself the best brood bitch you can possibly buy and breed her to the best performing male you can find that has some common dogs in the ancestry is not bad advice. Deductive reasoning can say that if the mother produces the head and brain in the foetus, that the paternal genes are forming the body and limbs. What I take from this is to try and get the gamest well bred gyp that you can find and breed it to the most ATHLETIC dog that you can find. The dam's mind will be there and the sires athleticism. Of course.. this is all theory and not set in stone. if I compare MAyday to Yellowbuck which were two of the BEST EVER, it would still be a super hard decision because Dolly was a rugged well built game to the bone gyp that was bred to Gr.Ch.Yellow, a performing high ability I'll do whatever it takes to figure you out dog. Yellowbuck, (One of the best of all times) was out of a cold Awwesome BAby (ROM) gyp bred to one of if not the best performing most athletic dogs of all times (Buck) . However the amazing thing is when Victor bred Blondie (littermate to Yellowbuck) to MAyday the results were ONCE IN A LIFETIME DOGS. The original Macho had it all, and if not for running into the dog that beat CML, Havannah Chico, and Strictly Business, would have made Gr.Ch. and not just 1XW. but he made ROM in just 4 breedings. His siter Macha produced Machobuck. I like the X-Factor theory, but like I said, it's much more complicated than that.
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Interesting breakdown in thinking, Evo, and it makes perfect sense. It falls in line with what I am doing by breeding an awesome athlete to the most rock-solid, game longwinded bitches I can.
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Its a old way of thinking just with genetic giving reason. Just not the end all be all. I did the exactly same thing in my last breeding. My bitch Shady Baby was a good solid inbred bitch daddy daughter bred on her daddy and her dad was bred the same. I took her to Ch Nacho a very talented male with good structure and from the same family. He gave a quarter out to the put with 1/8th being of common ancestry with a twist. The litter is very uniformed, intelligent, athletic, full of vigor, and great structure. I bred them this way in hopes of keeping performance and production with the traits I desire in a high %. They are just pups now but plenty of drive as in work ethic. I believe the X Factor shows true in my breeding but I also believe the sire made a great difference. There is plenty more to be known but this is a fascinating and very informative in the fact it supports what many have thought for years in a single aspect of breeding.
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Re: The X Factor
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Bumping this up for you Steely as I think its what you were speaking of with sex related crossing off the X and Y chromosome.
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Thanks EGK. Musta missed this one. Great info.
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No problem bro, the board was still in testing when we were talking bout this. When you brought this up today it had me going again. Salute
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Great series of posts. I think this one was a little before I signed up unless I missed it altogether. EWO
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Great topic and read interesting prospective from all who contributed, awesome way to learn thx everyone.
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THE BLACK HOLE!
I’ll apologize in advance for rehashing an old thread. However, I found the X-Factor Breeding Theory tread to be very interesting and worthy of study. The potential impacts on a given breeding program could be profound. If there is a quantitative method of reinforcing a potential breeding output, I am all in….
So, I found what I think was a very good example:
http://royalpitbulls.tripod.com/BWPedBreakDown.htm
I objectively back check this against the 4 generation peds on a few of the dogs that I have, and I thought it was fairly accurate.
IMHO, the “Black Holes” mentioned in the article can NOT “have little or NO effect on the offspring.” Rather I think that these preserved voids house the respective recessive traits of the sire and/or dam. I think that these holes are the traits that “skip” a generation (based on the logic) and are more obscure. I can’t manage to get my head around the idea of something being there and then it’s just not? That defies logic and some basic genetic principles and physics, IMO.