Round Pen for No Chain Situations

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Originally Posted by CRISIS

hey TFX i have a question.........i hear cable "tolley/runs" are actually indeed legal in CA,.....although i havent done the homework on all the details myelsf...ive been told, that even a 1-2 ft cable is still considered a legit "trolley run".......do you know of the details behind this? if so would you be able to share any ideas of the the runs themselves?? the only thing i can think of (other than the classic overhead hang style) is having 2 axles in the ground with a cable running between them....attched to that cable is the steel ring that attaches the chain & collar..

if i can figure this out, this will save an amazing amount of money from having to buy kennels with every new addition.

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Yep, they are legal and so are ground cables. Ground cables are a better deal than overhead setups in my opinion. As long as the chain is not stationary to a center point like an axle then you are golden.Years ago at the Pope's ranch we had a 200' overhead cable run which basically served as a pre keep for ones that were going to be shown. They would zing up and down that darn thing all day long exploring the area. I will come and help you setup your first one when you are ready. Start collecting axle shafts now, you will need 2 per setup instead of one. Source out the heaviest O rings you can find (preferably stainless steel), as well as your cable and cable locks now too. If you get this 1" stuff like I have, it is so damned stiff that it is really hard to bend back to lock to itself in a tight loop. I think a little thinner cable, and perhaps doubling them up would be better after working with this stuff. It was given to me so I can't really complain, and it's going to last 1000 years, but man is it tough to bend!

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Originally Posted by pig mad

Tfx i am an asshole there is no doubt about that in person and on forums hahaha but no that was not how i intended to come across as i said to you in pm long winded storys loose me it just turns into a mess in my head not to mention i realy like to see pictures of things mainly so i can steal ideas give me written plans i may have trouble following but show me a picture and ill duplicate it to a t.
I do appolagise if i offended you to be honest id probably like to pick your brain i have asked people who you are as it is obvious your very knowledgable but no one answers me.
While i have everyones attention start posting pictures with your pedigrees and storys i know i like to see them and doubt i am alone showing a pedigree and dog is shit might look good on paper and dog be a retard buck tooth twisted leg inbred mutt hahaha.
Sorry again tfx im alright once you get to know me ( im an asshole but youll get use to me) hahaha

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I don't believe you are or intend to be an asshole, but it sure can come across that way. If long winded stories lose you, quite frankly you are going to have a hard time learning much. There is no way to impart knowledge without detailed communication, whether it be written or spoken, and there is no way to absorb that knowledge without good comprehension. I sympathize with people who are ADD or lack focus or attention to detail for whatever reason. Being a little bit OCD myself, I can empathize and imagine what it would be like to be on the other end of that. I wish I had the easy answer for you, but all I can say is take it one post at a time, one book at a time, one chapter at a time, once paragraph at a time, or even one sentence at a time, whatever it takes to really digest something and understand it. You eat an elephant one bite at a time. Different people see the same elephant as being different sizes based on thier own perception. Either way, take one bite at a time, even if the elephant looks huge to you and smaller to someone else. I know the feeling of looking at a long post and saying "I don't want to read all of this shit". On the other hand, if you are going to learn, or contribute to the forum you have to read it well in order to reply appropriately.

You did not offend me Pig Mad. If I didn't care for you, or thought you weren't worth my time I'd tell you to go screw yourself, or just ignore you. I think your using these dogs for hunting and crossing them with hounds and so forth is all very interesting. I think you have something valuable to contribute. Your a member of this forum and free to participate however you like. With that said, let me give you one more thing to think about. You have been on here for 3 months, and I was the first member on this forum other than Jack, so I have been here a year. Yet, in 3 months you have significantly more posts than I do. That's certainly your right, and please feel free to post away to your heart's content. On the other hand, slowing down and putting together more informative well thought out posts might make your contributions to the board even more valuable. You have stated that I am knowledgeable. I actually might not be as knowledgeable as some other folks are, but I try to take the time to put together cohesive posts that will add value to the community, and that will benefit other people. It doesn't just fly off my fingertips the way you read it. I have to go back and reread, rephrase, and rearrange my posts until they make sense to me at least, and hopefully to others as well. Written communication is often difficult, because it is hard to put inflection into the writing. I am confident that if you take the time to read and reread, write and rewrite, your experience here as both a learner and a teacher will be improved.

I personal hate kennels or pens for my dogs. but if I had to use one again I would only use metal kennels. bc wood breaks down over time. I use to use wood in and on my kennel set up as walls so I didn't get kennel fighting. but one day my bigger male decide to eat the plywood wall had to take him to the vet. and it wasn't cheap.
another reason I do like using wood in kennel set is it absorb piss. so your yard always smells like piss.
me personal I would never use kennels except for pups. if I don't have to

The difference in our posts tfx is mine are questions when it comes to bull dogs thats all i got questions on the other hand you got all the answers my problem with comprahension is when there is several pages of off topic shit i have to sift through to get to the part i want i read and write fine just some people stretch the answer out to the point it gets boring reading it and id rather go kick my dog than read it. If anyone had questions about pig hunting id be all over it but this is bulldog site thats what im here for like i say just add a few pictures everynow and then and that is to everyone not directed at you jacks little videos are great were as same stuff is in the bible but getting through all the wind in each chapter looses my interest. I showed pictures of all mutts appears everyone else just shows pedigrees

Write some pig hunting stories damn it! That would be of interest to many here.

Righto i'll fire up the computer and post some pics and a story of my hunt the other day. I stopped posting them because it appeared to me jack didnt want em on here the way he picked it apart..

i cant tell you how many times ive writtien a few paragraphs, reread before posting and then just delete it and never post it....lol

i wouldnt mind seeing some hunting videos............

Just trying to get the pics off my phone

sounds good TFX, i look forward to it!