Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
why isnt there a such thing as a hard tested hound? If u put ur hound in every situation duriing schooling and test the gameness as much as u can without losing the hound then ur testing hard. Example u taking ur hound and take him up-hill 5 lbs with a good skilled dog and they go 35 min. and the smaller dog starts to piss on hisself and starts the process of checking out and through all that once seperated said hound scratches when there seems no way he could make it thats a hard tested hound. Now the true test is always the match if u have a match quality hound, but a hound can be severely tested hard through school and if ur not testing hard in school how could u ever know if there worthy of a bet? I'm not that keen to knowing how talented, or game a hound is without testing HARD!!!
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
From what I have been raised on part of the testing comes from whether or not they are ready. Taken from the chain to school and the exams determine their grade rather than homework and the last test determines their value or feed. I may be wrong but like I said I was brought up on they go or they go to sleep. I have seen a lot of good dogs in the wrong hands get punished to hard and if it wasn't the right move, the right act or the right defense they got the boot. SO it really depends on the owner and his right judgements rather that feed an untested or none worked dog, I know I wouldn't.
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I think a properly schooled hound has seen or been through every obstical that could be brought to them in a match. A hard tested hound is one who has been put in the situation to quit and against all odds they keep coming without hesitation.
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
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Originally Posted by H.B.K.
why isnt there a such thing as a hard tested hound? If u put ur hound in every situation duriing schooling and test the gameness as much as u can without losing the hound then ur testing hard. Example u taking ur hound and take him up-hill 5 lbs with a good skilled dog and they go 35 min. and the smaller dog starts to piss on hisself and starts the process of checking out and through all that once seperated said hound scratches when there seems no way he could make it thats a hard tested hound. Now the true test is always the match if u have a match quality hound, but a hound can be severely tested hard through school and if ur not testing hard in school how could u ever know if there worthy of a bet? I'm not that keen to knowing how talented, or game a hound is without testing HARD!!!
I completely understand and respect the point you're making, H.B.K.
What I was getting at is there are no certainties in these dogs ... and a dog that was "hard-tested" can still quit when he's matched ... and a dog that "showed gameness" in his last hard match, can still quit his next time out ... therefore, ultimately, being "tested hard" is not a certification for anything.
Jack
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
Without question jack nothing u did in the schooling gaurentees a victory once matched, but a hound can be tested hard through schooling to determine if there game to the extent in which u tested. And to ur point thats why schooling is what it is and competing is the only way u can judge the level of ur yard and what ur investing ur time in. But still a hound can be hard tested in school.
By the way jack i think ur on to something with this site and really like ur code of conduct and ur hard work in all aspects with these dogs, two thumbs up!!!
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
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Originally Posted by H.B.K.
Without question jack nothing u did in the schooling gaurentees a victory once matched, but a hound can be tested hard through schooling to determine if there game to the extent in which u tested. And to ur point thats why schooling is what it is and competing is the only way u can judge the level of ur yard and what ur investing ur time in. But still a hound can be hard tested in school.
Agreed. And "who" is saying they're hard-tested can either carry a lot of weight, or no weight, depending on the source of the statement.
I think sometimes school is the hardest test, especially if they're pushing weight and not in shape.
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Originally Posted by H.B.K.
By the way jack i think ur on to something with this site and really like ur code of conduct and ur hard work in all aspects with these dogs, two thumbs up!!!
Thank you very much; it is nice to just be able to talk dogs without being "on defense" for the eventual attacks and uncalled-for remarks ...
Jack
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Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
It sure is refreshing to have good bulldog banter without the confusion of non-sense on every post!!! :D
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
Given the right opponent the right handler the dog will what he's suppose to do but the right situation the right match he or she will quit! Nothing is ever written in stone with these hounds. They'll all quit given the right dog and the numbers of matching one after the next.
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
HOW WOULD YOU FIND OUT "FOR YOURSELF" IF YOU SHOULD CULL OR USE IF NOT FOR A HARD TEST?
Re: "TESTED HARD" --- What Does That Mean?
[quote=CA Jack]
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Originally Posted by "H.B.K.":zn5s1wbt
why isnt there a such thing as a hard tested hound? If u put ur hound in every situation duriing schooling and test the gameness as much as u can without losing the hound then ur testing hard. Example u taking ur hound and take him up-hill 5 lbs with a good skilled dog and they go 35 min. and the smaller dog starts to piss on hisself and starts the process of checking out and through all that once seperated said hound scratches when there seems no way he could make it thats a hard tested hound. Now the true test is always the match if u have a match quality hound, but a hound can be severely tested hard through school and if ur not testing hard in school how could u ever know if there worthy of a bet? I'm not that keen to knowing how talented, or game a hound is without testing HARD!!!
I completely understand and respect the point you're making, H.B.K.
What I was getting at is there are no certainties in these dogs ... and a dog that was "hard-tested" can still quit when he's matched ... and a dog that "showed gameness" in his last hard match, can still quit his next time out ... therefore, ultimately, being "tested hard" is not a certification for anything.
Jack[/quote:zn5s1wbt]
that may be true, but gameness is what sets this breed apart, so what he may do the next time out is irrelevant, if they show game when you ask then that is all that need to be done from that point you decide whether to take them out again or be satisfied without you saw
