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No BJ Skipper didnt have him dont belive that skipper was in dogs back then, This dog was owned and handled by the owner of ch diesel,Quote:
Originally Posted by bulldoghistorian
Jack i have done some reserch on the dog and he was a brother to Diesel, so he was only 50% visegrip breeding
Some times people dont tell you the hole truth about there breeding. Back then when we asked him he just told us the he was Visegrip breeding.
//Jawman
SGC was kind enough to send me photos of the following European dogs:
- Vise-Grip's Baby Doll (1 photo)
- Vise-Grip's Boots (3 more photos)
- Vise-Grip's Iron Golem (1 more photo)
Thanks!
Jack
Jack, the dogs look awesome. So Iron Golem is still alive and kicking? I have a photo of Boogie's Ch. Diesel I can send you if you would like. The size is not overwhelming but maybe still of worth for you. A friend of mine sent it to me back when he was interested to breed to him. Regretfully it never happened.
Hi. No, Iron Golem is dead, unfortunately. Died of cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lasse
His owners bought the Mocha Java dog from me, after they lost him.
Yes, most definitely, would love to update Ch Diesel's page with a photo, so please email to administrator@thepitbullbible.com, when you get the chance :)
Thanks!
Jack
Man if only I could get my paws on some Hornet blood or some Duke Nuke blood, man folks with it don't want to let any of it go. My partner was able to access the Silverback blood so can't wait to see how they grow but man oh man i wish the Duke blood was heavy.
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Originally Posted by CrazyRed
The Duke blood is as solid as it gets, as far as dependable extreme gameness and stamina goes, no doubt.
But Silverback would have killed 3 of Duke Nukem ... looking for a fight ;)
Not only that, with a 6-0 record (2 of which were extreme battles of will and attrition) Silverback has produced impeccable gameness percentages also ...
Jack
Hopefully what is getting brought in follows that mentality lol... Yes that stamina and gameness is what I love, hopefully we can add some style to it.. Why not have the skill set of Silverback in which you describe and what his offspring are showing, with the heart and stamina of those Duke dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Ummm, I already thought about that ;)
I edited the post, read again :)
Silverback has an equally-impeccable gameness quotient as a producer, with 2 sons winning extreme long-distance battles of attrition ;)
Ponchoback (2:36)
Prime Ape (1:43)
Why did this happen? Because I bred Silverback to Sassy for one (off Screamer's brother Thunder, and therefore Duke's cousin) and Twilight for another (right off Duke) :mrgreen:
Silverback's win record is therefore a dramatic upgrade to Duke's, being 100% (6-0) in open competition 8)
Jack
I thought I had lost part of my mind for a second, i literally was sitting here thinking I must be developing alzheimers lol. I said I did't see none of that in his post at all how could I miss that. Then I see you state you edited the post lol, but yes sir you are correct and I agree no coincedence at all, it wsa perfectly selected and it showed the part. Wish you still had those dogs around and were breeding them up, how is twilight doing, were they able to get more than 1 or 2 off her lately or has she passed on now?
Great minds think alike, I've just been breeding my line for awhile and know which way to go with it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CrazyRed
No, unfortunately, Twilight is dead. No daughters alive.
Prime Ape, 007, and Magilla (another badass son of Silverback) are all that's left.
English's Truck is off of Silverback and Brick House who is the sister of Icon (possibly the best pure head dog I've ever bred). Brick House was herself a wicked face/mouth dog.
Brick House and Icon were off Duke's sister Jezebel. Where Duke was just average, Jezebel was 100x better, and was the highest-ability bitch I have ever bred/fed. I would go after any of these studs, down from her or from Duke, with full confidence. I kept Truck's sister Amazon for a reason (:mrgreen:) with the idea I could breed her to one of the Twilight sons in the future ... IFF I ever try to rekindle my line again ...
Jack