Kibble and Raw

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Agreed Skipper.

To the others, feeding "kibble and raw" is ridiculous.
Either keep being lazy and feed kibble, don't improve anything, or step up to the plate and take the time to feed raw right.

People who say they "don't have the time" are lying to themselves.
You'll watch 3 hours of TV, spend 2 hours online, and then cry online about being "too busy" to spend an hour to feed your damned dogs right.
Lameness. Pure, excuse-making lameness.

Jack

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hahaha, point well taken jack, but time has nothing to do with me. and I can assure you I aint lazy or lame. hahaha. just found something the dogs seem to like.
but like I said point well taken from all. but jack, how about you come follow me around for a week if you can hang and then tell me I'm lazy.lmao... just cutting up with ya dude . don't blo a gasket.lmao.....

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Originally Posted by rodburner

hahaha, point well taken jack, but time has nothing to do with me. and I can assure you I aint lazy or lame. hahaha. just found something the dogs seem to like.
but like I said point well taken from all. but jack, how about you come follow me around for a week if you can hang and then tell me I'm lazy.lmao... just cutting up with ya dude . don't blo a gasket.lmao.....

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Okay, I will try to keep my sense of humor, but it fries me the (sorry, yes) LAME shit people say. For example: just found something the dogs seem to like.

WTH does that mean? :confused:
Dogs like pretty much anything :lol:
So you're telling me that you base what you feed on what "your dogs seem to like" rather than actual knowledge of feeding principles? :rolleyes:
I'll bet if you feed them pancakes & syrup they'll wolf it down ... so maybe you should switch to pancakes & syrup because "the dogs seem to like it" :lol:

I think Skipper hit the nail on the head: I think people who feed raw "and" kibble really don't know what they're doing ... can't read or understand what's-what ... and so try to "do everything" to make themselves feel like they "haven't missed something."

So I will try to laugh with you, and maybe you're a very busy guy, and no lazy in other areas, but you sure aren't doing a good job of feeding your dogs.

That I can say for sure.

Jack

I had a "old-timer" get PISSED at me not agreeing with him about raw vs. kibble. He went as far as to ban me from his board because he said raw says in the system to long and would make the dog sick. I called a few different vets who gave me links that proved him wrong. I posted them to his board and he banned me. LMAO!!

It's actually the opposite: raw is in-and-out of a dog much faster than kibble ...

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

It's actually the opposite: raw is in-and-out of a dog much faster than kibble ...

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Oh I know this but this fool was gonna fight me on the subject and the biggest problem I have is that he has a following of knuckle heads who think his word is law. Matter of fact I think the 1st person I called looking for documentation was Scratchingdog.

That is the trouble: people "repeat what they hear," like parrots, without really knowing what they're talking about and without really conducting their own serious research.

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Good sir, the only potential trouble I see is it doesn't look like you're feeding BONES at all (maybe with the chicken), and the dogs need bones for calcium.
Not sure what the calcium profile is on the Preference, but I would always feed RAW BONES with any raw diet. Always.

Meat has a lot of phosphorus / nitrogen ... which can be problematic over time without calcium to balance it out.
A dog is supposed to have 2:1 calcium:phosphorus ratio ...

Jack

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I have a question. My raw diet has basically everything that Jack suggested on his videos, chicken quarter with bones, heart, gizzards, livers, intestines, soft boiled egg, yogurt, salmon oil, greens, and the multivitamin pill. Is it necessary to have the pill if my raw diet has all of that?

Necessary? No. Theoretically-speaking, if you are feeding a full spectrum of food with all the vitamins exactly in place, you don't "need" an extra vitamin pill.

But, that said, adding a vitamin is basically a $0.02 additive that has a full spectrum of vitamins "just in case" ... which is why every dogfood known to man also has vitamins added to to it on the backside :)

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Necessary? No. Theoretically-speaking, if you are feeding a full spectrum of food with all the vitamins exactly in place, you don't "need" an extra vitamin pill.

But, that said, adding a vitamin is basically a $0.02 additive that has a full spectrum of vitamins "just in case" ... which is why every dogfood known to man also has vitamins added to to it on the backside :)

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Thanks Jack! ;)