DOG OF THE YEAR

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Originally Posted by YigYang

For anyone who wanted a PDF download of the Gr ch Vengeance Journal and the Gr ch Crota Journal here is a link for a a free download
thnx and good lluck
http://www.sportingdogjournal.info/
just scroll to the bottom of the page and you will see free download near by the journal itself

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Thanks for posting :)

No problem.. i will try to keep everyone updated on info like this

IMO, for what its worth If Gr Ch's and Ch's are in the running together, it would seem obvious that the Ch's would get overlooked unless their Ch title was done in extreme devasting fashion. i know of Vengence, although I don't know him, and believe he definitely is as deserving as a few others that come to my mind, just from the references provided. Coming out of retirement to solidify his place definitely in history holds a lot more weight that some of the other factors that are often considered. Also, I see you put one of your dogs in the running that's a normal reaction from the gut as we all feel we should be given our just due, but also a tad bias from under my microscope. That being said, I think accepting the outcome is the noble thing to do as we dont have much unity in the sport as it is. Where bulldogs are concerned, everybody is a judge, :lol: but it is at the discretion of the one bestowing the award to make the final decision. Let's all respect that rather than critique or analyze the accurateness. We all get our time, but it usually is not under our control to decide when that time is. Such is life.

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Originally Posted by Fool Killer

IMO, for what its worth If Gr Ch's and Ch's are in the running together, it would seem obvious that the Ch's would get overlooked unless their Ch title was done in extreme devasting fashion. i know of Vengence, although I don't know him, and believe he definitely is as deserving as a few others that come to my mind, just from the references provided. Coming out of retirement to solidify his place definitely in history holds a lot more weight that some of the other factors that are often considered. Also, I see you put one of your dogs in the running that's a normal reaction from the gut as we all feel we should be given our just due, but also a tad bias from under my microscope. That being said, I think accepting the outcome is the noble thing to do as we dont have much unity in the sport as it is. Where bulldogs are concerned, everybody is a judge, :lol: but it is at the discretion of the one bestowing the award to make the final decision. Let's all respect that rather than critique or analyze the accurateness. We all get our time, but it usually is not under our control to decide when that time is. Such is life.

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being that this is a sport and in all sports we have different opinions when it comes to who deserves different honors. Like now there r many people who believe breese deserves poy, and others think arron rodgers deserve it and who ever wins it desereves it but it's still a topic of conversaion. Do i think there where other hounds who deserved the honor yes but do i think that Vengeance didnt deserve it no. He in my eyes will come to be one of the greatest of all times and i give all kudos to him and his camp. If u dont stand behind what u believe then what u believe means nothing!!! If u ask sean payton he will say breese is the most valuable player and if u ask mike malarkie he will say arrron rodgers is, well i was pongo's coach and i gave my opinion to what i believe to be the case. Great job KC!!!

Fair enough friend, fair enough.

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com...res/311768.jpg

Looks like Vengeance's daughter (Ch Blaze) just made Champion, making Gr Ch Vengeance a Register of Merit producer two weeks after New Year.

What a helluva dog.

Jack

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Originally Posted by YigYang

I Will not say these dogs should have been DOY but i i honestly think that they are great noticable dogs off the last year or two.
Gr ch Virus defeated gr ch santiago for his Gr ch award.

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did you see that match? i did and it was not doy worthy

I would at least put Gr CH Sofia in the runnings... She made grand and her only living son made CH the same year as well. But after reading about Gr Ch Vengeance, I see why he won.

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Originally Posted by killercombine

Thank you Jack, we are very happy about it and extremely proud of our son. It is ironic that the very same people who were talking crap and making up lies out of hate got their asses handed to them in 22 minutes. Gr Ch Vengeance made ROM on them, epic. Reality is setting in on them right about now, we have exorcised the demons, lol. There is a thread on peds online congratulating him and Blaze, but we as a kennel decided to no longer post on that hate oriented enviroment. Thank you again my friend. YIS, KC.

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You're more than welcome for the just due that your dog is getting. I saw the news over there and thought I would personally congratulate you over here, so I appreciate your comments and support here as well.

As for wiping the smile off of the faces of haters, I truly understand the feeling friend, as (after all) that is why my handle over there is SmileWiper :lol: ... so I am sure the accomplishment for you is doubly-sweet, given the circumstances :D

But, in all seriousness, congratulations on having a once-in-a-lifetime dog in Gr Ch Vengeance (2x DOY + ROM).

May he live a long life and launch a legacy.

Cheers,

Jack

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