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Originally Posted by Kimo615

I'm copying and Pasting this message per Jack. I sent this to him in regards to deletion of a certain pedigree. Thanks.

There is a pup posted as offspring off my male. I figured I'd message you personally regarding this instead of making a stink on your board. Here's the thing, my Male was stuck to this guys bitch 1 time. Well, after that..he refused to compensate me for my services, he refused to send me pictures or videos of the mother with the pups. Then, a few weeks later, Patty called me from the ADBA. Telling me my signature had been forged on a litter registration on this particular litter. The guy originally told me 5 pups were born, but tried to register 8 with the ADBA. Then, I find out he needs Staffs to his Game dogs. Needless to say, I never signed off on those "Supposed" off spring. 1, Wasn't compensated, 2 forged my signature, 3 the Am Staff thing. Most importantly, I never had any proof those pups were off my male. Patty also refused to register the pups or require me to because of those reasons. Then, I see he had them listed under my stud on here. Is this something you would delete for me? The pedigree. I don't know what them pups are actually off of. Or how many there are really. I don't want him false advertising those dogs. They aren't recognized or registered of my stud. If this is not something you want to do, I understand. Just figured I'd talk with you about it and see what can be done. Here's the pedigree to the pup I'm speaking of.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=51552

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Looks Like You in your feelings McGuire. You can spread those lies as far as anyone will listen. The truth is still the truth. You know why the deal went the way it did. You're a liar plain and simple. You talk real good online but lets not forget I been in your presence more than a few times since we've had dealings to know the truth about you. :lol: I guess you saw how good Lynch Mobb looked:-O and it made you mad that you don't have it~X(. Whether she is registered or recognized by a registry makes no difference, YOU KNOW what she is, and its burns your heart that you don't have tht CHINAMAN/LIL GATOR X REBEL YELL blood:crying:. Believe me if she wasn't off Hammer I would have nothing to do with you. What can you offer me??? You contacted me about the breeding, YOU WANTED TO BREED TO MY BITCH (DARKCHILD) and I accepted after you lied about how good that kibble eating German shepherd beating hound of yours was. Do you tell everyone how Mr. Abernathy no longer has dealings with you because of your lying ways? Did you tell everyone that I was the one who transported your Machete dog after her breeder was going to beat your ass for lying? Did you tell everyone about those screenshots you sent out claiming Hammer's win over a machobear dog that turned out not to be hammer and instead 2 females when we found the video? Did you tell everyone that you have no real experience? Did you tell everyone how you got exposed then tried to distance yourself from us by any and all accounts? HUEBLOT@YAHOO.COM (P.S only way ADBA calls you is if you Flag your account to be contacted whenever they receive an application) Lesson of the day folks....."Just because its the only side of the story you know doesn't mean its the only side of the story."

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Here is another pup that does not exist. No females survived this litter. Only 2 males.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48356

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For one you little faggot you don't know shit about this litter and leave Garcia Vegas and JSK out of yo promotional factious accounts you run to the internet more and more when I call yo weight I haven't been responded to you've duck us for 6 months with that weak ass house dog this is Garcia Vegas Jsk256 doesn't even use the account any more he lost his password months ago and your speaking on dead dogs is outlandish we have nothing to say to you or about you yet you always want to bring ppl up your a fake the world know and you I'm not going back and forth but you should be banned after you and gas man Stan run in
Your resume speaks for his self
I payed $1000 for an unpapered dog cause your rasict antics and you didn't want me to buy I tried to pay you to register litter to squash the beef you are a liar and have admitted to my face you never touch yo male and never would I can go on an on
Fuck you bitch you get a life you won't match us and your an internet dogger any inquiries call me personally you forgot to mention you introduced all of us to each other and now you the only one no one fucks with that says a lot
You can back peddle all you ever said but if some one googles you the rest speaks for they self and showgirl will never be registered because yo bitchass will never get credit for my dog and Hueblot is a good dude I just bought this account today to clear the air y'all can have this internet shit to many fakers
Call me and hook you bitch quit ducking $3500 46#
256-226-2687

Jsk has lost his account infoonths ago and those PEDs are true I am Garcia Vegas and further info call me personally 256 226 2687

This guy is crazy he got to much controversy around him any way I wish we could undo breeding to his house dog but he like attention and I'm not paying any McGuire's a fruad

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

There are pups that do exist off that particular pedigree of HueBlots. However, there was no proof she took of my stud. There was 1 stick...but he refused to send pictures of her pregnant, or her with all the pups. So no proof of where then pups came from. Now when you do a pup deal, shouldn't you send that type of proof? He did send a picture later on of 5 pups. But, tried to forge my signature on the registration and tried to register 8 pups with the ADBA. and yes..I was also burned on the deal. He never paid me for stud, said he didn't have the money prior to the stick. So I agreed to pup deal. After the pups were born, he refused to pay me then or send a pup. Ok, Now with JSK, He has two pups. Both male. Bama Black and Hammer Jr. Both males registered with the ADBA and those are the only two registered out of that litter. Why? There was 13 pups born, 11 died within the first week including the mother of the pups on his yard. So, The female pup he has listed "China Girl" or China Doll...whatever it is on the pedigree does not exist. Only the two males I spoke of survived and was registered with the ADBA. Now, McGuire's Molly Hatchet...she does not exist either. The guy Hueblot created that pedigree according to your pedigree log. And he's made tons of edits to it. I own Hammer and Machete...the supposed parents of "Molly Hatchet". Machete is only 8 months old, never been bred and has not even had a heat . Machete is the daughter of Hammer. I hope that clarifies everything. Any further questions feel free to contact me. I can verify everything in telling you with Screen shots in their own words, and with the ADBA (Patty Bullock).

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Honestly speaking McGuire is angry that he hasn't been compensated for the breeding. The reason for him not being compensated is because he falsely advertised his stud as a winner. I was the 3rd breeding he made with Hammer earlier this year. He had lied to the 2 previous breeders about hammers performance and continued to do so when I got involved. Hammer was supposed to be VERY WELL educated and finished every task put forth, graduated & went on to become a winner after school. LOOOOONG story short I exposed McGuire as a liar once we had gotten acquainted and things were more personal.(Real life no internet) I saw through the lies that he told and I made the others aware of McGuire and his policy of truth. He said he was Baker Davis' grandson. Hammer has never raced a day in his life and once that became apparent Things took a turn for the worse but not in his favor. I did not commit to my end of the deal because McGuire knew I would've never bred to his stud knowing the truth. He called the ADBA and told them everything under the sun to keep the pups from being registered and so she is not registered but she is definetly Hammer's offspring. He has no real knowledge beyond the internet dogging world. (KIMO615, GAME4GLORY, & TENNESSEEGAME). Many others can verify his non credibility. If this makes any difference to you feel free to check out how he publically humiliated himself. This is just one of the things I found out after meeting and breeding my gyp to McGuire in April of this year. http://www.game-dog.com/archive/index.php/t-69818.html

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Here is another pup that does not exist. No females survived this litter. Only 2 males.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=48356

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For one you faggot you don't know wat exists ...your a liar gasman Stan showed us your true colors....
Get of the internet and hammer off the couch you've duck me for ever with your house dog your a fake....
Hueblot speaks the truth ....I offered to pay you $1000
To squash this dumb shit you like the promotion to peddle
I need not say any thing because if you google you and your dog name its trashed show girl will never be registered under any circumstances because yo faggot ass conned us and you were the one who originally told us about the breeding and expected litter you have nun and you cry like a bitch

Any one want the truth about the subject call me personally 256 226 2687 Garcia Vegas
PS I'm not going back and forth can jack pm if need be all PEDs enter by jsk256 are true he been locked out his account for months

Jack, let's just cut the crap with these Goons. Email me and I will send you screenshot after screen shot. Email from Patty at the ADBA and A text from Tom Garner. I ain't got time to play their little games. I will shut this shop down real fast. Just email me.

It kills me that Yall name drop like you do. I don't talk to Randall because Randall has lost touch of the world and communicates with Thugs like you. I have nothing personal against Randall, but if someone associate with you to pieces of shit...they get the hatchet. Do all you can to discredit me. But these are facts. Hueblot, your a theif..you just admitted you didn't hold up your end of the deal. 2 fact...there is No Existing proof where your dogs came from. Fact 3. You do breed Am Staffs to Game dogs. Fact 4..you did lie about the pup count, and forged my signature with the ADBA. Fact 5...You wrote a letter to Patty saying you paid me and all kinds of Bullshit and lied to Patty to...this was proven after I sent screen shots. And all that is why your mutts can't be registered. You can say what you want fuck boy...but I got everything from the day you two thugs originally contacted me. And...I have no problems using any of it to burn your thug asses. I will always win...you two idiots are not smart enough combined. That's what happens when you get out of your league and pretend to be smarter than God allowed your dumb ass to be.

Ok, only Two pups registered of JSK " Hammer Jr and Bama Black. I can prove that to. The ADBA sent me a copy of my studs Off Spring list a few weeks ago. I have screen shots where you two morons told me every pup died other than those two including the mother. Try me and see...I will bust it out on your ass. And no, none of us met on several occasions. I met Garcia and JSK 2 times for two sticks about 45 min total. Hueblot, i met for two sticks but only 1 stick happened as I said. Yes he brought Machete to my house, I paid him $400 to do so. And, at that point we was cool. I grilled out for this guy, provides him alcohol and a expensive cigar in celebration because of doing "Good business" together and a start of a new "Friendship". So I treated the man like family when he came over . Not soon after that, he starts questioning me and the Stud. Why? Old shit...cuz someone told him I'm the same Kimo from GameDog. Well I'm here to tell you...both of these accounts are the same person but was not me at that time. This account on here was shared. The game dog account I didn't even know was created. Those who know me know what happened. Needless to say, because of all that..I lost someone close to me. But that's none of yalls business what so ever. So you can continue that tired ass shit if you want. But you two goons know I'm way to smart for all that shit. Sucks when you been outclassed don't it fellas? Something told me to keep all this info and I did. Stuck busters! JSK, "Garcia". I would have never ever done business with you two if Randall hadn't called me and asked me to. That's truth. Hueblot, I didn't seek your Bitch out! You drove to me! Lol. I have the stud. You agreed to $1000 stud fee up front. Now if a man would have asked you to breed to his stud would he charge you $1000 stud up front? Idiot! But you gave me a lame ass story on you cousin dying or some shit and you was taking on his 3 kids and couldn't afford it so I offered to help you with a pup deal. You was supposed to send me one...and my partner one for introducing us. Neither of us got one...neither of us want one now because we never seen proof of those pups with the mother. And, cause we both know you breed Am Staffs to game dogs. You even asked me to paper hang those Am Staff pups off Hammer and I refused! Lol. I have proof of that to. It gets better, after you flipped face on me. Calling my stud a cur, threatening me like a thug, you asked me to breed Hammer to your Roullette bitch. Well, I got proof of that to. If my stud is such a cur, why would you want me to do that? Obviously I refused to do the breeding. Lol. Hueblot, JSK, say what you will...but all you two clowns have only seen my stud Bree. Your bitches. So you cannot say he's anything because you ain't seen shit and never will. Safer that way, your both loose lipped name dropping run tell that wreckless thugs. Your even a danger to yourself but you two idiots are to dumb to figure it out. Now, the proof is with me on all this in you two clowns own words. I saved it all and can and will send it to anyone who needs verification. I ain't playing this he said she said. I got facts from day one. Not a sentence or word missing since day one. Try me punks.

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Jack, let's just cut the crap with these Goons. Email me and I will send you screenshot after screen shot. Email from Patty at the ADBA and A text from Tom Garner. I ain't got time to play their little games. I will shut this shop down real fast. Just email me.

It kills me that Yall name drop like you do. I don't talk to Randall because Randall has lost touch of the world and communicates with Thugs like you. I have nothing personal against Randall, but if someone associate with you to pieces of shit...they get the hatchet. Do all you can to discredit me. But these are facts. Hueblot, your a theif..you just admitted you didn't hold up your end of the deal. 2 fact...there is No Existing proof where your dogs came from. Fact 3. You do breed Am Staffs to Game dogs. Fact 4..you did lie about the pup count, and forged my signature with the ADBA. Fact 5...You wrote a letter to Patty saying you paid me and all kinds of Bullshit and lied to Patty to...this was proven after I sent screen shots. And all that is why your mutts can't be registered. You can say what you want fuck boy...but I got everything from the day you two thugs originally contacted me. And...I have no problems using any of it to burn your thug asses. I will always win...you two idiots are not smart enough combined. That's what happens when you get out of your league and pretend to be smarter than God allowed your dumb ass to be.

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I'm not reading any thing this poser has to say period....
Review all fact presented
And I'm sure McGuire will be banned for his antic I'm gone

P.s 256-226-2687 Garcia Vegas call me anytime or any one

Lastly I thank CA Jack for this ultimate database its great ...
I will here on out register my dogs here because ppl can tamper with true "papers"
And this site is a million more times legit

Haha!!!! The Cur comes out! You just keep digging this hole thugs. Soon as you get good and deep I will be here to cut the rope. Evidence is a bitch! Lol

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Haha!!!! The Cur comes out! You just keep digging this hole thugs. Soon as you get good and deep I will be here to cut the rope. Evidence is a bitch! Lol

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Just say nigger you've called hueblot that and its on the tip of your tounge ....all this beat around the Bush you've got our number everyone seeing your the only one mad 😹😹😹

We tried to reconcile over and over ...
If its not about the money
Its not about the pups
Its not about any thing
Your just upset lol we don't have paper's on the sour deal you've won lol in your world
In reality your jerking off in your tears and everyone's tired of hearing about it just chalk it up
Like we have and move on....you won't hook so all this other shits just promotion lol
You sell dogs we don't
We run dogs you don't we can never see eye to eye

Do you think it would be possible to keep this dispute CIVIL and FACTUAL?

The point I am most concerned with, as a database owner, is if the breeding is LEGIT or not :idea:

Who owes whom "what" is a secondary consideration to the reality of how the dogs are bred.

With that said, these are the facts I have been able to decipher:

1) The breeding is legitimate;
2) Kimo lied about the exploits of his stud;
2) Hueblot/Rolltide lied, and never paid Kimo the stud fee, because of his lie about phony record of his stud.

IMO, the lies about the exploits of the stud do not justify the action of withholding payment for the stud.
If the buyer(s) of the stud service failed to do their due diligence, that is their own fault.
However, the fact Kimo didn't get paid for his stud service doesn't justify Kimo's lie TO ME saying the breeding is "fake." :angry:

BOTTOM LINE: 1) Kimo owes ME an apology for his lie to me, 2) Kimo owes Hueblot/Rolltide an apology for his lie to them about what his stud has done, and 3) these two guys owe Kimo his pup/payment for the stud service.

That's how I see it,

Jack

Hold up! I don't owe anybody anything! They have no proof of my stud EVER doing anything or not doing anything! That's hear say! It's none of their damn business either! And they bred to my stud before they ever knew a damn thing about him. So accomplishments is not why they bred to him. I can prove that to! Jack, you have no proof of his accomplishments either for that matter. And Jack, I didnt lie about crap. I told you one stick took place, but...there no proof that mother welped those pups! Now, how am I supposed to say they are off my stud when I never seen a smidgen of proof? He refused to send that proof, then lied to me and the registry about the pup count. And he breeds staffs? That causes confliction with the entire thing. Here's the bottom line, I have proof of everything I accuse them of. So why don't you email me Jack and get that proof before you say I owe you or them any thing???? You are hearing their story...but is a damn lie! You want the truth? Email me. And for you to say my studs accomplishments are a lie because of word of mouth by these fools is bullshit.

You cannot prove that breeding is legit! And neither can He, neither can I and neither can any registry. There's the answer to that. And I have proof of all of it. 1 stick doesn't mean she took, she could have had staff pups in here before she came. He did say he bumped her with a dog on his yard to see if she ready and I got proof of that to! Fuck him! He is lying scum. Weasel! He bred to my dog on papers alone just like that weasel Garcia! They didn't know shit! Garcia called Randall and asked what dog he would breed that made in China bitch to and Randal Reccomended my stud. They emailed me and asked to breed to him. Didn't ask shit about him. I got that proof to! Same thing with Hueblot. My partner arranged it, he bred to my stud because of the pedigree. I have proof of that, and a damn witness.

All this my dog is fake shit comes from them two clowns and TreezBulldogs AKA "Gas Man Stan. ( The guy Jack bashed on here for stalking my wife) yea...he's credible alright.That's where it all spawned from any damn way. They just follow suit. I can bust all this shit wide open but not a soul will email me to collect the proof. Typical

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Hold up! I don't owe anybody anything! They have no proof of my stud EVER doing anything or not doing anything! That's hear say! It's none of their damn business either! And they bred to my stud before they ever knew a damn thing about him. So accomplishments is not why they bred to him. I can prove that to! Jack, you have no proof of his accomplishments either for that matter. And Jack, I didnt lie about crap. I told you one stick took place, but...there no proof that mother welped those pups! Now, how am I supposed to say they are off my stud when I never seen a smidgen of proof? He refused to send that proof, then lied to me and the registry about the pup count. And he breeds staffs? That causes confliction with the entire thing. Here's the bottom line, I have proof of everything I accuse them of. So why don't you email me Jack and get that proof before you say I owe you or them any thing???? You are hearing their story...but is a damn lie! You want the truth? Email me. And for you to say my studs accomplishments are a lie because of word of mouth by these fools is bullshit.

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You are @$$uming the story is a lie.

The FACTS are:

YOU lied TO ME and said the breeding NEVER took place
You now admit that the breeding DID in fact take place;
YOU lied about your stud's exploits;
THEY lied and did not pay you the fee;
Yet they STILL say their pups are off your stud.

My own view is the statistical probability of them still admitting their pups are off a paper-tiger (if it really isn't) is pretty low ..
Whereas the statistical probability of YOU lying appears to be pretty high, in general (especially if you didn't get paid for your stud service) ...

In point of fact, there IS a way to prove all this; it's called a DNA test.

But, since I doubt there is enough cooperative spirit between yall, my opinion as to what stays here is the final judgment.

Since "weighing evidence" is something I have done probably longer than you've been alive, my judgement is is this: a) since you admit the breeding happened, and b) since they are admitting their pups are off a paper tiger = the pups are in all probability legit ... ESPECIALLY if their date of birth is roughly 63 days after the breeding they did to your paper tiger ;)

Jack

I didn't lie Jack, Go to Yesterday's original post that I copied and pasted out of the message I emailed you where I clearly state 1 stick took place. So, since you been weighing evidence longer than I been alive you may need to brush up on your skills. And my paper tiger??? Your a fucking DBag. You have no proof what my "Tiger" is and neither does those scum bucket thugs you are sucking off. They have no proof what he is and neither do you and the way you fools talk so wreck less and a fucking forum further justifies why none of you dip shits need to know anything about him. You talk all that shit Jack, but...you fail to email me me for proof of anything. You are assuming and taking someone's word for it all rather than physical evidence. And no! DNA will not be done, because it is not required. He never compensated me, and...he lied to Patty. Patty said she will never require DNA. I don't give a fuck what them pups are. There is no proof, he failed to provide proof of the mother with the pups. So it's my job to provide proof by DNA that the pups are off my male? That's genius! Lol

Now tell me where I lied Jack?????


Re: Hey Jack

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Kimo615
There is a pup posted as offspring off my male. I figured I'd message you personally regarding this instead of making a stink on your board. Here's the thing, my Male was stuck to this guys bitch 1 time. Well, after that..he refused to compensate me for my services, he refused to send me pictures or videos of the mother with the pups. Then, a few weeks later, Patty called me from the ADBA. Telling me my signature had been forged on a litter registration on this particular litter. The guy originally told me 5 pups were born, but tried to register 8 with the ADBA. Then, I find out he needs Staffs to his Game dogs. Needless to say, I never signed off on those "Supposed" off spring. 1, Wasn't compensated, 2 forged my signature, 3 the Am Staff thing. Most importantly, I never had any proof those pups were off my male. Patty also refused to register the pups or require me to because of those reasons. Then, I see he had them listed under my stud on here. Is this something you would delete for me? The pedigree. I don't know what them pups are actually off of. Or how many there are really. I don't want him false advertising those dogs. They aren't recognized or registered of my stud. If this is not something you want to do, I understand. Just figured I'd talk with you about it and see what can be done. Here's the pedigree to the pup I'm speaking of.

http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=51552



Hi.

Please post this online and make a big stink.

I have to allow others to debate/dispute your claims.

If you're not confident enough in the truth to air it publicly, then I am not confident enough in what you say to change the records on the database.

Thanks for understanding,

I said there's two dogs that do not exist. McGuire's Molly Hatchet" and JSK Chyna Girl or whatever it is. That's stated clearly prior to this in yesterday's posting. I think I'd know what pups exist out of my own Bitch Machete and Her Father Hammer. Then two have never been stuck together. And, like I said..I have proof that JSK female doesn't exist either from the ADBA and Text with JSK stating the pups died and so did the mother but you are obviously not going to email me for any proof. You rather take a clowns word

63 days my ass...no proof of that either. How do you have that proof? I sure as fuck dont

So, You accusations 1 through 2 have been disproven in the original email I sent you already Jack. And as far as my stud being a fake, prove it! So that accusation number 3 is disproven to because you have no proof and neither do they. Anything else? Asshole.

YOU lied TO ME and said the breeding NEVER took place
You now admit that the breeding DID in fact take place;
YOU lied about your stud's exploits;
THEY lied and did not pay you the fee;
Yet they STILL say their pups are off your stud.

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

Do you think it would be possible to keep this dispute CIVIL and FACTUAL?

The point I am most concerned with, as a database owner, is if the breeding is LEGIT or not :idea:

Who owes whom "what" is a secondary
consideration to the reality of how the dogs are bred.

With that said, these are the facts I have been able to decipher:

1) The breeding is legitimate;
2) Kimo lied about the exploits of his stud;
2) Hueblot/Rolltide lied, and never paid Kimo the stud fee, because of his lie about phony record of his stud.

IMO, the lies about the exploits of the stud do not justify the action of withholding payment for the stud.
If the buyer(s) of the stud service failed to do their due diligence, that is their own fault.
However, the fact Kimo didn't get paid for his stud service doesn't justify Kimo's lie TO ME saying the breeding is "fake." :angry:

BOTTOM LINE: 1) Kimo owes ME an apology for his lie to me, 2) Kimo owes Hueblot/Rolltide an apology for his lie to them about what his stud has done, and 3) these two guys owe Kimo his pup/payment for the stud service.

That's how I see it,

Jack

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You are exactly right
Will not happen again but I owe him nothing I bought a pup from hueblot not McGuire the breeding I made with him I paid cash and am the only person to date that has paid him
I've offered to pay him for hueblot justvto move forward he refuse the money and the pup

Jack, Enail McGuire.PitBulls@gmail.com I will light your inbox up with proof of all this. If you cannot do that...then your evidently following the word of some lying ass weasels and you will be no better.

He refused DNA over and over um done

Damn right I did bitch! Why is it my job to prove those pups are off my male when you refused to prove they are when I needed proof? Fucking faggot.

I'll pay lol
Its OK the ruling has been made good bye

Fuck you scum. Ruling made by who? Jack???? Lol! He can choose to listen to you thug pieces of shit if he wants. Just shows what kinda person he is. I have proof. And I will fucking post all over gods creation soon. I will probably be banned here but I do give a fuck. Jacks a piece of shit anyway. All Yall can go fuck yourselves. But get ready twat boy, I'm loading Facebook down with everybit of Garcia and Steve's messages since day one about this all.

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Jack, Enail McGuire.PitBulls@gmail.com I will light your inbox up with proof of all this.

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I am not going to email you anything. This is not my business and I could care less about the details of this transaction.

The simple fact is YOU came TO ME and asked me to remove dogs from my database.

You made some accusations against some members here that you didn't get paid for something.
You stated that these people had no "proof" that their dogs came from your stud.
First of all, no owner of a bitch is required to "prove their pups exist" to the stud owner :confused:
The very fact you admit they did the breeding is all the "proof" they need :idea:
The only thing they are required to do is PAY YOU for your stud service.

Since you wanted these pups removed from my database, and since YOU made some accusations, I told you to make your accusations public, because everyone has the right to face their accuser. I also asked you to collect your thoughts, and post them all together, rather than spam my board with every thought that pops into your head.

In the end, I am on YOUR SIDE, as far as the stud fee goes: you ARE owed a stud fee if these pups exist.

However, I think you would be more convincing if you didn't handle yourself like a bitch scorned.

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

If you cannot do that...then your evidently following the word of some lying ass weasels and you will be no better.

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Correct me if I am wrong, but the original lie came from YOU, did it not?

Please answer these two questions TRUTHFULLY.

1. Did you advertise your stud as a winner? Yes or No?
2. Is your stud a legitimate winner? Yes or No?

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Fuck you scum. Ruling made by who? Jack???? Lol!

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First of all, if you speak like this on here again, you will get the boot.

Secondly, correct me if I am wrong, but YOU came to ME, did you not? :-t

If you don't like my ruling, that is fine.
But it sounds like I AM RIGHT not to remove dogs from my database.

Make no mistake, I am the ultimate arbiter of this place.

If we want to pull out the ol' microscope and check you out: the reality is "you" are the one whose relevance here is insignificant =;

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Lol! He can choose to listen to you thug pieces of shit if he wants. Just shows what kinda person he is. I have proof.

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I will listen to THE FACTS of those who provide them for display.

The undisputed fact is EVERYONE admits that these guys bred to your stud.

The other undisputed fact is EVERYONE admits these guys never paid you for the service.

What is in dispute is "do pups exist" from the breeding and "did you falsely-advertise your stud as a winner, when it was not?"

IMO, even if you lied about your dog being a winner, the owner of the bitch still owes you a stud fee.

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

And I will fucking post all over gods creation soon. I will probably be banned here but I do give a fuck.

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You will never post here again unless you 1) apologize to me and 2) answer my two questions above.

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

Jacks a piece of shit anyway.

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I have done more good and beneficial things for these dogs, in any 3-month period, than you ever have in your forgettable life.

And, if you review this thread topic honestly, and see how you're conducting yourself, YOU appear to be the POS ...

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

All Yall can go fuck yourselves.

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It would reach, but it's not a habit that would interest me ...

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

But get ready twat boy, I'm loading Facebook down with everybit of Garcia and Steve's messages since day one about this all.

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For the last time, 1) apologize for your conduct here, 2) collect yourself and act like a man, and 3) post whatever "proof" you have up here if you like.

Quite frankly, I think it's pretty obvious already that you didn't get paid for a stud fee ... and that you are still owed a stud fee.

It is also quite obvious that whoever tried to register the litter falsified a legal document.

But that is NOT any kind of a reason why I should delete the pups from my database.

There is no reason for me to question the pups' existence.

You simply have not been paid for the stud service they owe you.

Jack

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Originally Posted by Rolltidepride

You are exactly right
Will not happen again but I owe him nothing I bought a pup from hueblot not McGuire the breeding I made with him I paid cash and am the only person to date that has paid him
I've offered to pay him for hueblot justvto move forward he refuse the money and the pup

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I agree, if you only bought a pup, then you owe nothing.

If Hueblot bred to the man's stud, and got pups, he owes Kimo for the breeding. End of story.

If Kimo lied about his stud's exploits, Hueblot should have done his due diligence before breeding to the stud, but that would still make Kimo a liar.

I understand Hueblot just "trusting" the guy ... same as I just "trusted" that Ch Hammer was really off of BBB ... only to find out 12 years later, he was not.

Worked out all right though :)

Jack

Jack, I never said he was a fucking Ch!!! Lol, He's a 1xw. Is a winner that rare to find these days? They can't prove he is and can't prove he ain't. None of their fucking business or yours. And...those pups do exist...but prove they are off my stud and I will kiss your ass! You can't! So...why is it ok for some fucking street corner thug to post his half breed pups underneath my stud regardless of stud fee paid or not? You say he don't have to show proof other than those pups existing? The mother fucker said he didn't have the money for stud and I agreed to a pup deal. My money was invested in his bitch to and the piece of shit refused to even send proof that bitch welded pups! And I have proof of all this but you want look at proof..you rather listen to bullshit! You have no idea the type of and class of people your listening to. Yea...I'm a mad motherfucker! I got two piece of shit thugs who bred to my stud (Who IS A MOTHER FUCKING WINNER)... And the best fucking dog them two faggots ever laid eyes on...come to my house...breed to my stud. One decides he's gonna breed to him for free and not honor the pup deal...the other gets pussy hurt when I refused to breed to his supposed piece of shit "Dibo" dog. Then he goes around saying my dogs a fake because that homsosexuak treezbulldogs who stalked my wife on the fucking internet said he was a fake. That's where Farcia heard it from the get go. Then Garcia told Steve. That's how shit goes. That's what happens when you try to do good business with low life hood rats. Garcia is a lying bitch with multiple personalities and Steve is a wanna be DMX choke Collar wearing hood rat that probably grew up in a decent environment but got a case of the retard. Yea, I'm mad, then hoods follow me everywhere I go on the Internet, even talking to themselves bashing me while pretending to be other people to make it more credible. Yea bitches, I can trace IP addresses to. I know it's you "Chopper Dan ass Mother Fucker". Garcia has at least 5 fake FB accounts. The problem is, that mother fucker wishes he was me. I'm everything he should hate. But that bitch will never be me. So the next thing is...discredit me all over the Internet to other fucking gullible retards and get them to joint his band wagon like you did Jack. Theses Twats follow me around like a bitch that got the dick and sprung. Hollering...Hammers a Cur but my puppies of him are the shit! And they do! Get the fuck outta here. They don't know a mothetfucking thing about my "Tiger". All they did was watch him fuck like a boss. Garcia is a mentally unstable kid...a fucking window licker that is stuck on me like herpes. He don't even own any of my pups off the made in China breeding. His cousin JSK does. Garcia bought a half breed mutt pup for $1000 from Steve and offered me $1000 to register his Mutt. Even Garcia don't know where that dog came from. Lol. No proof on earth what so ever. If them pups are Hammers, and you can't prove it but allow them to post it like they are, them fuck it I own dogs off Art and I'm posting them. There's no proof so why not? But there is proof Hueblot Breeds Am Staffs, there is proof He asked me to paper Hang staff pups under my stud, there is proof he lied about the pup count to me and Patty, there is proof he forged my signature. There is prof he didn't honor the deal. Do you not see what the fuck type of scum your listening to Jack? And I have visible proof of all this shit. But you will make a opinion on it? Please! Lol

I mean people are just sick of this shit and so am I. Either mothetfuckers are with me or they ain't. I don't give a fuck. I'm a good dude and a real mother fucker, loyal, honest and many other things. Sure I can be a asshole sometimes and a cocky fuck. But fuck it, that's cuz I'm real and that's that...and because I'm a A type personality with a fucking pair of balls. I'm not what them faggots are making me out to be. I been pleading my case for a long time, trying to be cool, trying to make friends. But fuck it..a mother fucker can't see a real mothetfucker no more. They rather roll with the Garcias of the world. I can't get down like that so fuck um. I roll by my danmn self and stand up for my damn self. I only got one face and don't have to worry bout myself being two faced. I don't gotta worry about people lying to me, on me, stabbing me in the back, gossiping like bitches, talking bout another mans dog like a elementary kid with his first cool dog. All these mothetfuckers are strangers. They ain't family, they ain't friends, they who??? I don't fucking know! Fuck um! Dont like me? Don't like what I'm doing with these dogs??? Who gives a shit. Not me! I'm just done with it. I'm gonna keep being me and keep breeding my dogs. Don't like my dogs? Don't buy one, don't stud to one! Think I'm fake? A liar? A my dogs are fake...whatever, don't talk to me!! the sun will still shine on my white ass tomorrow and my dogs will still thrive and live on. That's how I feel bout it. And fuck it if you can't dig it and fuck yo couch to!

I understand Hueblot just "trusting" the guy ... same as I just "trusted" that Ch Hammer was really off of BBB ... only to find out 12 years later, he was not.

Worked out all right though :)

Jack[/QUOTE]
Speaking of the real hammer... This situation is just the same and with it being the same as Jason knows once he showed his true ways I recorded his phone calls 3 hours worth where as wat ever he can put out on us is very meager to his voice on my cell phone admitting his dog not a winner admitting the pups exist and lastly ...
No body involved with this guy name become a hot topic before they met him...
Its all him making the scene we don't care ...
He didn't want money...he didn't want pups....
And the real reason because he assumed we were broke because we were black and when we didn't follow this guy he turned into Jim jones from that massacre I have nothing left to say my number is provides so McGuire put that out with the story aswwll so I xab defend my self....
We own better dogs then you you own one dog��
You name call to hide racist fascist undertones and aim for a crowd for sympathy when all else fells it's everyone else fault you lied about information no one asked for you've admitted to my face your dog was untouched and I think you admit it in this blog where we posting after review of all this compiled information you will never be able to stud your dog
And you have a superiority complex you believe you paid 1500 for the best dog in the world but would rather fight his battles online you are wat we real bulldoggers call *not authentic*
Why is everyone doing good and moved on but you?

I thank you again McGuire because I now own more more offspring to your Paper Tiger then you ...your a hyour a green horn who is hurting the game ...
You didn't want your blood out of your eye sight thinking ppl would keep contact with you be we don't ...
We don't have to argue...
We know the truth...
We don't want to talk about you or your dog
You force us.....
Your offspring on all our yard are embarrassing .....
Its only a reminder Internet's no place for doggers..
Why so hostile its over now move on
And you can p.m me all the racist slurs you want no one cares about you or yo dog you have my number quit flailing around pick your self up 256 226 2687 Garcia Vegas

I've breed local legends...
You bought an internet hoax big difference

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Originally Posted by Kimo615

...Either mothetfuckers are with me or they ain't. I don't give a fuck. I'm a good dude and a real mother fucker, loyal, honest and many other things...

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:lol:

This has to be about the funniest thing I've read in a long time :embarrassed:

I suggest you stop drinking at night :lol: :embarrassed:

You know I've been burnt on dog deals I think we all have and what l did was not deal with the person after very simple. One time I was supposed to breed to this super game Deacon male who in reality was cold, found that out when a puppy ran up to him and damn near fainted lmao. The breeding didn't happen. But it should be a lesson for all involved never breed to a dog you never work & don't breed to guys you don't know. All I wanted to was update a pedigree lmao

Who read everything on the last page. Raise your hands.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...ms-Crossed.gif

wrongly entered the sire and dam of this bitch, http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=51992, correct ones are
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=22836
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=52009

sorry about that . been adding a few peds lately and the wrongly entered ones are of a similarly named bitch, any help appreciated thanks

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Originally Posted by Palooka

wrongly entered the sire and dam of this bitch, http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum/bulldog_dogs_profile.php?dog_id=51992, correct ones are
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=22836
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=52009

sorry about that . been adding a few peds lately and the wrongly entered ones are of a similarly named bitch, any help appreciated thanks

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Hi;

Do you realize you have the ability to edit/change this pedigree yourself?

i have tried, though obliviously I'm doing something wrong. the video says use edit details button but there's none available, the edit button below name wont save sire/dam changes, perhaps I'm watching the wrong video, if you could point me in the right direction, I'll happily correct it myself. my apologizes, I'm a bit thick headed today after celebrating my 50th birthday yesterday, so i realised the solution is probably staring me in the face but for the life of me, i can't see it.