congrats to the old dog and camp!
hope he is doing ok.
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congrats to the old dog and camp!
hope he is doing ok.
He is recovering after his long ride.
wow that's amazing, congrats.
:appl:
Here is what I heard:
This doesn't take away anything from Titere's win, but it DOES take away from the camp of the opponent as a no-class collection of ****.Quote:
He should be okay but haven't talked to them today. He beat Freeborn Born Kennels Smokey 2xw-1xl RIP. The deal shouldn't of taken place but the bad mouthing that was put out by this kennels made it happen. The show was actually over at the 1:30 mark because Smokey was downed and dying but they refused to pick up and Titere refused to stop punishing a dead bulldog. Guess they were hoping he wouldn't scratch to a dead bulldog. What they didn't that he had killed one of his earlier opponents and had been threw the situation and scratched to a dead bulldog after they wouldn't pick up either. Will let you know his condition during the day.
It is a shame that a DG dog was just left to die. There is no shame in losing GAME ... especially to a dog like Titere (and there really is no dog like Titere).
It should have ended better ... but that doesn't change the accomplishment of Titere, just the taste in the mouth afterward.
Jack
Really a shame but most don't know he will scratch into anything down or up! And he is throwing that trait :-) :-)
There's no such thing as not scratching back in to a dead dog right. The match is over if the dog is dead. Agreed with Jack, its a shame. Also a shame to drag a gr ch into deeper waters if you know you already lost. I will accept or ask for a scratch to continue in such case and let the people treat their dog. Did it before. Don't have to be friends with your opponent, but respect the dogs.
Exactly. A dog is not required to do that, to anyone who understands the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nut
And that is also exactly what that POS camp tried to do, was take Titere another hour, to "maybe" jeopardize his life too.
It's lowclass bullshit, nothing more, and no good ref would have let that happen.
Refs *do* have the ability to DECLARE A WINNER for precisely this reason.
Jack
The camp and the ref were pieces of shit.
He picked up, after much protest from the crowd and his team. Ref was urging a pick up as well. By 1:20, only a miracle, quit on top by Titere (which wasn't gonna happen) was his only hope.
To clarify, a scratch to continue was granted, NOT a pick up. He couldn't stand let alone attempt a scratch.
This was once considered a Gentlemen's sport and this is one of the problem of todays game. It takes a real man to admit defeat and save his animal which has given his all for you. But when you pop off at the mouth like many do this is the outcome and their true colors come threw.
I'm sorry it ended the way it did (shouldn't ever happen that way), but a hearty congratulations to Gr. Ch. Titere & all his camp. Helluva bulldog.
Not only a PHENOMINAL powerhouse but a GAME PHENOMINAL POWERHOUSE. A true Bulldog Hall of Famer!
God bless to all those behind Titere as well as the dog himself. There are some GREAT stories behind this animal and GENTLEMAN as well.
SHOWBOX
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Congrats to Gr Ch Titere 8XW. One hell of a bulldog.
RIP to Freedomborn Kennels' Dream Snatcher. A total waste of a beautiful, well bred, dead game athlete. If you see your dog cant win then at least have the decency to pick him up.
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum...p?dog_id=47964
Amen brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by scratchin dog
Hate to tell you that's the wrong dog. Maybe bred alike but Smokey was a black nosed bulldog.Quote:
Originally Posted by scratchin dog
Are you sure? I was told it was this particular dog. Ok, im going to change it until I find out for sure. If anyone knows the ped of the bulldog that lost to Titere, please let me know so I can post it here. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Nitaino
Same dog, call name Smokey.
Thats what I thought. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by ChuckyDukes
Not same dog. In the picture the dog is red nosed and the dog called Smokey was dark fawn with a black nose. I know this for a fact because I stood across from him taking a loss like a man.
Hard to dispute that
Ok, so maybe the discrepancy is in the picture of the dog on the ped. I took it from the other peds site, so it could be the wrong pic and description. But i believe it is the correct ped on the dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitaino
He beat Titere's litter mate Panthro jr for his second. He was brought out of retirement to put together a three part deal. They beat the old man and bailed out of the rest of the deal. They were supposed to give me a shot at a 1xw they owned with then 2xw and now Ch Reno. So the third match which was supposed to be females I refused to do. Hopefully this clears everything up and no more doubts.
Thank you for the clarification. Hopefully someone can clear up the issue of the correct ped/pic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nitaino
Smokey was a red, red nose vs Titere. There is NO dispute on that. Unless my eyes were playing tricks on me?
Dream Snatcher aka Smokey beat Panthro Jr, lost to Titere. Red/red nose, verified by someone from their camp.
Then it wasn't Smokey. He was also a man biter.
I was in there with him for an hour and I might be old and slow but not blind.
There have been a couple instances where even I have thought a nose was "one" color but, upon closer inspection, it in face was another color.
I seriously doubt the owner of the dog doesn't know what color his own dog's nose was.
So let me get this straight: this dog Smokey is the dog that beat Titere's daddy?
Jack
Smokey beat his littermate, Panthro Jr 2xw 2xl
Family score settled then, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChuckyDukes
Dream Snatcher aka Smokey. The manbiter.
FreedomBornKennel aka Joel is a POS!!! Claims himself to be to be a top class dogman but does shit like that in the box!!! I knew he was a big POS when I first spoke with him.
Big congrats to Gr Ch Titere and his camp for shutting up that big mouth POS!
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Originally Posted by CA Jack
Jack can you clarify this for me because I was always of the understanding that if it's your dogs turn to scratch, he has to even if the other dog is dead?? From what I gather is being said here, the referee can actually declare the winner? Maybe I've taken it up wrong, is this if no turns have been called? And is this under Cajun rules?
This is really interesting to me.
dont know about the referee decision part. but no dog is required to scratch into a dead dog.
Reread the rules NO DOG has to scratch into a dead dog and this is why rule are talked over before hand. Ch Omar camp was taken like that lost their money but got the W!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macker
Dont know if the man is a POS or not but the choice was his to pick up or not and he chose not to got respect it if we agree with it or not!
It takes real balls and a hell of a BULLDOG to travle and go into a 7XW they laid it all on the line.
Hi. The rules directly state no dog has to scratch into a dead dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macker
The whole point of the Cajun rules (scratching), as opposed to just leaving them down until 1 is dead, is to AVOID death.
The referee can't "declare a winner" if two dogs are still fighting, but if one dog is gone and just being dragged around the pit dead, he can declare a winner like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macker
In any case, anyone leaving his dog down to die isn't exactly the height of "class" and "sportsmanship."
Jack
It takes real balls to do the fighting yourself, not with the dog.Quote:
Originally Posted by ragedog10
It does take a certain competitive spirit to travel and put the dog on the line, but it takes class and sportsmanship to recognize when the dog can't possibly win anymore and to show some respect for its life.
Having zero respect for life is not exactly a positive trait in a person.
Jack
That's a really good post. I never understand people using the word balls in this sport. Only when it comes to reffing it applies.Quote:
It takes real balls to do the fighting yourself, not with the dog.
It does take a certain competitive spirit to travel and put the dog on the line, but it takes class and sportsmanship to recognize when the dog can't possibly win anymore and to show some respect for its life.