;) yup, Jack read it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmberLamps
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;) yup, Jack read it wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by AmberLamps
Sorry about that Amber, my bad.
I turn around for a day and all hell breaks loose, and I was pissed and mistook what you did for something else.
I didn't think you'd part with yours.
Jack
Yep, guilty as charged.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pit Bull Committed
Just woke up, no coffee, and the first thing I do is see a bunch of shit from Bently ... and mistook what AmberLamps said, so my bad.
Better now, onto the second cup of coffee, and yes AmberLamps, we're still friends and sorry about my mistake.
Even the friendliest bulldogs will nip those closest to them if they get geeked-up :lol:
No probs Jack.
Still curious to who's parting with those dogs though? Care to let us know Bently?
Your original post did, retard:Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
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Originally Posted by bently
That's your original question asking about how to work/condition your fucked-up pup, right?
That video of Poncho was of when he was dying of cancer, retard. If you had a brain, and would listen to what was being said, it directly states "This isn't his chain spot."Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
It's called a temporary chain spot, genius. Because even a house dog needs SUN ... and a place to empty ... and that was his temp chain spot to get it. Very simple.
Again, if you actually would listen to the video, it directly states my dying dog was a HOUSE DOG and slept in my bed. And, if you could understand English, you'd know that.
Is there anything else you can fuck up and get wrong today?
Define "the best feed possible."Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
That makes no sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
You're right, I have no control over your shitty habits and conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
But no, you're wrong on the second part. I have my own ideas, and put them to paper better than any other APBT author before me. Yet that's not what made me think I was "the ultimate breeder."
I never said I was "the ultimate breeder" ... but what made me think I was a better breeder than 90% of anyone who ever bred dogs in the history of the game is my 87% win record over every other breeder's shit in the game ... the fact I did this with a bloodline I created myself ... and the fact that this all stemmed from an unbroken string of MY breedings dating back to the first 2 dogs I bred together ... proving my ability to keep the quality alive in EVERY GENERATION ... which is something less that 00000000001% of any breeder can say of that they're doing. That's what makes me think I was a pretty darned good breeder. And a helluva lot more successful at it than you.
I only had 4 fights as a competitor, true.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
1 win, 2 game losses, and 1 quit (c/h by someone else).
All against 20+ year veterans when I had less than 3 years experience myself.
And, as a producer, Poncho didn't throw "a pretty good percentage" ... he threw one of the best % win/loss records of any dog of his time. Period.
But this has nothing to do with anything, so let's see if we can get back to your question as to whether you can work/condition a 6 month old dog that can't walk and just got in a kennel fight.
You and your "high standards" :rolleyes:
Jack
I try to be cool too.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
The trouble is when people do/say shit that is so obviously crazy, dumb, that there has to be something more than a mere "discussion" ... there has to be a boot in the ass along with it.
You've got a fucked up dog. Who couldn't make it to his first birthday without being in a kennel wreck. Who can't walk around the block without falling over.
And, you're asking about "working him" (to match, by all you've said) before he can even walk a straight line and not need to "lie down."
And then you talk about your "high standards" ...
If you can't see THE IRONY of it all, then you're as BLIND to reality as you are DEAF as to what was clearly stated in that video.
If you posted this in the Canine Health forums, seeking therapy for your dogs' well being it would probably have been better received.
That said, I could have been more respectful myself ... even though reading stuff like that makes no sense to me.
Yes, I am very smart and helpful in just about any situation, true. I make mistakes and say things perhaps I shouldn't also.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
But as far as criticism goes, I don't always criticize people. Believe this or not, sometimes I tip my hat to people ... people who actually do things intelligently and correctly :idea:
So don't put completely stupid shit up here and expect a buncha "atta-boys!", because it won't happen.
I will worry about whatever gets posted here, which is MY world ... a bulldog world designed to exchange GOOD advice/practices habits, not shitty ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
And I too apologize for my own lack of character and self-restraint, because reading stupid shit really pisses me off too, but I shouldn't let it get to me and should learn how to discuss things more civilly.
So credit to CYJ for being a voice of reason ...
Jack
I am not putting a damn pup in a keep. If u go back you will see that I said "walking in general" . Now when he is an adult and if he still has this defect problem and it doesn't get worser then comes the question of should I keep him or not.
The best feed possible I feed my dogs isn't even worth mention because like we all know that if it isn't you "premium raw diet"then it's impossible to be the best feed.
Yard accidents happen, just that simple. As far as how it happened I won't discuss it. U act like u never had a yard accident . Let's all remember what screamer did to
Point blank. You are a breeder I am a competitor. You have a breeders mentality I have a competitor mentality. U like to breed dogs I like to compete dogs. U say u went into vets. I went into almost the best comp there is nowadays , and in many cases won. BST, K&Q , GB, LC, T2T, Size Up, Hargroves, just to name a few.
Now u can say whT u want because everyone is entitled to their opinion. I am done posting
Okay, fair enough. But you were already talking about matching him based on "what you saw" in a kennel mishap.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
Anyway, giving every dog a FAIR chance is a great thing ... let's just leave it at that.
That is actually correct: if you're not feeding a premium raw diet, your NOT feeding "the best feed possible."Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
It is scientifically impossible for dry, brown pellets to offer "the best nutrition" ...
Yard accidents happen mostly because of lousy setups, but in some cases they happen in moments of bad timing/judgement calls.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
In 24 years breeding dogs, I can count the number of yard accidents I've had on one hand ... and have 1 finger left over.
Breeders and competitors don't necessarily have to believe differently ... and patience, good food, and good practices benefit both equally ... while their opposite hurt both equally.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
That's fine. You can say what you want too ... within reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
I understand you were pissed, so was I. It happens.
If you're really trying to give this pup a chance, and find out the best ways to recover him, then hats off to you.
It was just hard for me to see that through the fog of his being malformed, in a kennel accident already, and being talked about like a match dog before he's even matured out and recovered.
Jack
If u really wanna give him a shot, put him on a chain so he can get all the sunlight he needs switch over to the raw diet as it will have him looking 10 x's better. Now when he matures if he doesnt get better you wasted alot of time and money, i would really give it deep thought and go from there with the best intrest of the dog in mind. Best of Luck Ole Man
i have put him on the raw diet of ( chicken quater, greens, rice, and cottage cheese with multi vitamins), which he has been on for about 2 weeks. the others are on kibble , i just a pain thawing out chicken quaters every morning. i use the cottahe chesse for his bones and joints instead of kefirQuote:
Originally Posted by ragedog10
i do hold my dogs to a high standard, although they all get a same fair shot of being able to mature before being judged. i will put him back on chain , i will make him a chain spot in grass, so that the surface dont be so hard on his feet and sholders as well
Yes it is a pain but the benefits are worth the xtra time, maybe with time he will get better but its hard to tell as i never seen him in person but if it looks like he's in pain when he walks i would assume it will only get worse. But best of luck with him. Ole Mqn
right off the chain he is fine, and strong, if u walk him as time goes on he just gets weak. but also he seems he never wants to walk. for example if i walk him about a mile up the road he will walk behind you and very slow. as soon as you turn around he pulls and tries walk as fast as he can to get back home. so i can say that its his attitude as well, very stubborn.
That is considerate of you, and good luck.Quote:
Originally Posted by bently
Having lots of calcium/vitamin d along with the sunlight is critical. A half-tsp of cod liver oil would be advised.
Just to clear up one last thing on my end, that "bs" chainspot for Poncho, again, was not a permanent quarter.
It was a "break" spot for an elderly, dying *house* dog ... to stretch, get sun, empty, etc.
The large kennel crate (as opposed to a house) also had thought behind it: it is hard for a dog to squeeze through into a barrel house ... especially an old, sick one.
If Poncho felt like laying down while he was out there, he could just *walk* in or out to his bedding ... he didn't have to stress himself by "squeezing through" a small space ... so there was thought behind it.
To be perfectly clear, he was NEVER left outside in the elements; that's just where he took his emptying/getting-sun breaks.
Even though Poncho looked active, he was very sick with cancer, and was dead less than 7 months after that video ...
Jack
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Originally Posted by CA Jack
i was done with that whole agruement, and dont want to revisit it. with that being said " are you saying i can feed, cottage cheese, multivitims, (and) cod liver oil in the same meal" ?? thats isnt to much for him