Educated dogmen

The most important lesson I got from my post graduate studies was the education in methodology of searching and evaluating information, which in today's internet accessible by everybody fast info world, is my top tool.

Well said. Like everything bulldog, and most everything in life there are differing opinions, so one would have to define 'educated'.

I work in the pharmaceutical industry myself, after time in the military and with a college degree I work with people from some of the most prestigious engineering schools from around the world. All are educated. Lots are educators to the educated. Most are extremely intelligent, IQ's and back grounds out of this world. And with that, some I wonder how they find their way to and from work everyday.

I once worked for a molecular engineer/molecular research scientist who pretty much summed it up as an education, at any level, is only as good as it is used. Just about anybody can go to a school memorize what someone else accomplished, repeat in orally or in text, and then receive a degree. it is the application of said knowledge that determines the value of that education.

He was from upstate New York. He was an Ivy league guy. He was a Rhodes Scholar. He went on a fishing outing down here with us and I had to show him everything. He could break the fish down to its molecular levels but he could not cast a rod, clean or fry fish. Still educated though.

It is all application. Who would one choose to condition his hound a noted canine sports scientist or Don Mayfield?

My pops dropped out of high school, went to work and then onto the Army in the late 60's. He came home with an education that no school can provide. Much the same as the young men and women returning from the middle east today. There is no school to prepare them nor no school that can return them to what they once were. But they have an education. My pops farmed, was in construction, a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, a welder, all the things that make a farm and house go...he was as educated and versed as anyone.

Some say his schooling ended in the tenth grade, some would say it began when the other form ended. All opinion. All about application.

With that said, I am not knocking collegiate academia because it will open doors like nothing else. Once that door is opened it is what one chooses to do that matters. EWO

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Originally Posted by CA Jack

I graduated UCLA with a degree in philosophy & have studied law (as well as medicine) as part of my education as an insurance claims/fraud investigator for over 12 years.

But, as far as useful information goes, the education and research I have done on my own has been AT LEAST as valuable to me as the formal education I have received.

In other words, reading, assimilating, and utilizing valuable information is *not* restricted to anyone and does *not* only come from within the walls of an established institution.

With intelligent use of one's time, books, the internet ... as well as the key people in one's life ... a person should be continually educating himself until the last breath of life leaves him.

Jack

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Originally Posted by EWO

Well said. Like everything bulldog, and most everything in life there are differing opinions, so one would have to define 'educated'.
I work in the pharmaceutical industry myself, after time in the military and with a college degree I work with people from some of the most prestigious engineering schools from around the world. All are educated. Lots are educators to the educated. Most are extremely intelligent, IQ's and back grounds out of this world. And with that, some I wonder how they find their way to and from work everyday.
I once worked for a molecular engineer/molecular research scientist who pretty much summed it up as an education, at any level, is only as good as it is used. Just about anybody can go to a school memorize what someone else accomplished, repeat in orally or in text, and then receive a degree. it is the application of said knowledge that determines the value of that education.
He was from upstate New York. He was an Ivy league guy. He was a Rhodes Scholar. He went on a fishing outing down here with us and I had to show him everything. He could break the fish down to its molecular levels but he could not cast a rod, clean or fry fish. Still educated though.
It is all application. Who would one choose to condition his hound a noted canine sports scientist or Don Mayfield?
My pops dropped out of high school, went to work and then onto the Army in the late 60's. He came home with an education that no school can provide. Much the same as the young men and women returning from the middle east today. There is no school to prepare them nor no school that can return them to what they once were. But they have an education. My pops farmed, was in construction, a mechanic, a plumber, an electrician, a welder, all the things that make a farm and house go...he was as educated and versed as anyone.
Some say his schooling ended in the tenth grade, some would say it began when the other form ended. All opinion. All about application.
With that said, I am not knocking collegiate academia because it will open doors like nothing else. Once that door is opened it is what one chooses to do that matters. EWO

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Standing ovation :appl:

Well said, EWO, fantastic.

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Originally Posted by CYJ

Very impressed. I finished High School and went straight to work with Southern Bell. Today is now back to AT&T. Did 6 years in the Navy and 12 years in the National Guards. 31 years total with Bell South, later renamed AT&T.

Was able to retire and draw my full pension at 49 years old. Will be 64 years old this coming May. No degree per say but watched my finances, did not have to work myself to death for Da Man. Have several grand's that have college degrees or working on one.

You fellows have any ideas to what will pull our country out of this looming debt and possible collapse of our monetary system. Paper money with no substantial backing will go only so far. Seems half of our country is working for the other half. Cheers

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Simple - spend within your means.
Been living debt free for about 6 years now. Unbelievable power comes with not being indebted to anything

Well said NQK. That is how I was able to fully retire at such a young age. I did do some part time work till I started drawing my S.S. at 62 years old. To just sit around a house everyday can get boring.

Margaret Thatcher once said that Socialist type governments work just fine till you run out of the other guys money. LOL I fear the greed of our Politicians and the miss information from the Cable TV's and internet. Has this newer generation thinking the Government will take care of them. From the grave to the cradle. With no real effort or sacrifice on their part. Cheers

I have a BFA from one of the best art schools in the country. The School Of Visual Arts in NYC.

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Originally Posted by CYJ

Well said NQK. That is how I was able to fully retire at such a young age. I did do some part time work till I started drawing my S.S. at 62 years old. To just sit around a house everyday can get boring.

Margaret Thatcher once said that Socialist type governments work just fine till you run out of the other guys money. LOL I fear the greed of our Politicians and the miss information from the Cable TV's and internet. Has this newer generation thinking the Government will take care of them. From the grave to the cradle. With no real effort or sacrifice on their part. Cheers

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Yes sir, our "leaders" are killing our country. American used to be something very game and noble. Typical American these days is a notch above gutter trash parasite.

high school dropout........ guess im a dumb redneck....LOL

I have a master's degree (4.0 GPA) and 2 bachelor's degrees and I cant clean or fry fish. LOL

LMAO @ the last two :mrgreen: