((( THE TRUTH ABOUT MASON'S CH HAMMER )))

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Originally Posted by TFX

As those of you who have been here for awhile, or have followed some of what I have written on Jack's former boards now for many years know, I have always said it takes 4-5 generations for traits to manifest themselves anew, giving credence to what NQK posted about the throwback and the old timer. The problem is that very few fanciers work with a family long enough to know what in the hell they are talking about 4-5 generations later, or 20-30 years ago. Too many ballers out there looking for the killer to take out to the fast lane.

So, let me take you boys and girls back to 1991.. This is my late kennel partner The Pope as a young man with our Molly bitch, a direct daughter of Reuben ROM x Billy Jo (CH Bad Billy x Kudo, who is CH Bad Billy x Carver's Tiny). This is the only photo of Molly in existence. I am sorry it is old, black and white, and not the best pose. However, I believe even with these things working against us here, one can see the uncanny resemblance to Missy and Tiegs in head shape and color.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...ps71f8f014.jpg

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They really do have that "look" ... it's not in the coat color ... it's in the expression of the eyes and the carriage of the ears ... it's an expression that you can just "see" (if you know the dogs of that line).

It's unmistakable.

Jack

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Originally Posted by TFX

Now, with all of this context, let's revisit the Queen of Hearts potential if Bobby Jr. is really sired by Reuben as suspected. How does the Queen stack up physically to these females if they are her realatives, and remember the Queen has Boomerang on the bottom just like Tiegs, and remember that CH Bad Billy behind our Molly is also a Boomerang grandson, so we are dealing not only with the Reuben blood in common, but also the other dogs in the periphery with the Boomerang blood.
Queen of Hearts
http://www.thepitbullbible.com/forum..._04.jpg?142040

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Agreed, and if this is the true breeding of The Queen, it also makes more "genetic sense," and my dogs have always blended well with this blood (and I am sure yours does too).

Jack

Nice Read Jack, enjow IT.

J

Note how straight the back is on BBB. Note what some might call a Roach back or curved back on the Rueben dog, even shows on the Bolio dog. This is a trait in the Carver line of dogs. Some other Carver dogs I had seen up close had this trait. My three dogs being Young's Chuck, Young's Jake, Young's Winchester, had that same type build of the Ruben dog with the same type back and back end.

These type dogs have what I liked to call,a lugging diesel power of strength. Having strong tensile strength combined with the muscle strength. You could feel it when walking one of them. A steady strong pull on the lease. The dogs off my Chuck dog including Chuck were a laid back type of dogs. That did not waste unnecessary energy till something serious caught their attention. Being more calmer dogs and not nut case chain runners and root diggers. You would think they would be weaker dogs. But were strong as a Oxen.

Jack, most of us are all in agreement about the breeding on Mason's Hammer, at least I am. Fix the pedigree on this site and let the die hard Patrick dog men who want the BBB dog in the pedigree. Run with what they have from the ADBA. IMHO Cheers

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Originally Posted by CYJ

Jack, most of us are all in agreement about the breeding on Mason's Hammer, at least I am. Fix the pedigree on this site and let the die hard Patrick dog men who want the BBB dog in the pedigree. Run with what they have from the ADBA. IMHO Cheers

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LOL, I can see it in the body posture, as you say, and also in the expression of face/eyes/ears.

It is very prepotent blood, and Poncho had that "stamp"--and threw it.

Bandana was a BBB dog ...

Poncho was a Hammer/Reuben dog ...

Of that I am 100% convinced.

Jack

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Originally Posted by jawman

Nice Read Jack, enjow IT.

J

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Originally Posted by jawman

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Glad you enjoyed. You have to actually upload the file as an attachment. Click "go advanced" on the textbox (found at lower right corner).

Jack

Another shot on Reuben. Tn Jack for helping

J

Wow he looks like Amazon!

yes indeed he does.

Amazon got 8 x Hammer in 6 gen,