what would they be? males n females? here's mine
males: jeep, redboy, rascal, yellow, art
females" honeybunch, carolina flo, missy, sassy, dolly
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what would they be? males n females? here's mine
males: jeep, redboy, rascal, yellow, art
females" honeybunch, carolina flo, missy, sassy, dolly
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Sheesh 10 that's a buffet lol
Give me males: GrCh Midnight, Boomerang, Art, Midnite Cowboy
Females gotta be Black Widow, Miss Spike, Art's Missy, Red Baby, Queen of Hearts, Ready (Queen's mother)
Mayday, Indian bolio, blind billy, bad billy, melonhead, spike, frisco
Red baby, missy, honeybunch
if i could have 10 dogs, id give a few away and keep the ones i have.
Males:gr.ch.buck,bolio,gr.ch.mayday, tombstone,frisco
females:dirty mary,red baby,hollingsworth dolly,queen of hearts,honey bunch
Well, honestly, I could resurrect 10 key dogs of my line and do as well or better as any other combo I can think of, but just to "think outside the box" (or, perhaps, inside the box, LOL) I would take the following specimens:
Males:
Gr Ch Robert T
Gr Ch Buck
Gr Ch Art
Indian Bolio
Ch Tonka
Females:
Black Widow
Ch Honeybunch
Red Baby
Lady In Red
Speedy
Damn, I am salivating picturing being able to start a yard with these dogs, knowing what I know now :mrgreen:
Jack
Males: Art, Boomerang, E. Crenshaws Reno, E. Crenshaws Stufowler and Bolio
Females: Honeybunch, Carver' Black Beautee, Art's Missy, Black Widow, Ripper
I'm thinking like Jack, I just want some of my own dogs back to set up a better future! Beyond that, I think I would get:
Males:
Hooten's Ch Butcher Boy
William's Ch Paladin
Indian Bolio
Davis' Gr Ch Boomerang
Smith & Walton's Ch Bad Billy
Females:
Art's Missy
Womack's Mert
Skaggs' Firefly
Mr. K's Bup
Carver's Black Widow
I think I could make do OK with that lineup. Yeah, I like old Carver dogs.
Uh, yeah, I can see you like them old Carver dogs amigo ... but ya had to throw one true OFRN bitch in there for a kicker ;)
Interesting!
BOWLING'S LONER
COTTINGHAM'S RED MAN
LONGS ABBE
TAYLOR WILDER'S INDI
MOUNTAIN MAN'S HOMER
MOUNTAIN MAN'S SPIDER BITEM
MARLOWE'S BERRETTA
SHADY LADY
FAT BILL'S BOLEREO
WILDSIDE'S MEAN JOLENE
These threads are SOO fun, but SOO unfair at the same time, hah.
My boys would be:
GRCH Buck
GRCH Andy Capp
GRCH Art
CH Tonka
GRCH Boomerang
My ladies would be:
Art's Missy
GRCH Queen of Hearts
GRCH BB Red
GRCH Tina
Boyle's Dirty Mary
First ups would be Missy X Boomerang and Dirty Mary X Andy Capp :D
Agreed QCK LIME
My males:
Searcy Jeff
GR CH Art
GR CH KINGFISH
BO
Long's Werdo
My old boy Hannibal
Females:
Honeybunch
CH Gina Girl
Tabby Girl
Missy
1) o stevens homer
2) hammonds rufas
3) dibo
4)ch alligator
5)chinamen
1)honeybunch
2)gr ch tina
3)red baby
4)arts missy
5)satin lady
gr.ch. art
kingfish
gr.ch. zebo
gr.ch. pedro 9w
gr.ch. searcy jeff
ch.honeybunch
adams candy
clemmons brendy
fatbills balero
carvers black widow
Tramp , Mayday , Bullshit (3xw)(1xlg) ,Red boy
Honey bunch , Dolly , Missy . Mix and match cant go wrong .
You know I am wild about the Firefly bitch. There is plenty of Fitzwater's Goldie in those old Carver dogs, as well as the Jim Williams' Cyclone blood which are both heavy OFRN.Quote:
Originally Posted by CA Jack
Males:
Gr.Ch. Art
Gr.Ch. Angus
Gr.Ch. Cherokee Chief
1xw Indian Bolio
Gr.Ch. Boomerang
Females:
Gr.Ch. Queen Of Hearts
Gr.Ch. Shady Lady
Ch. Honey Bunch
2xw Dirty Mary
2xw Miss Spike
Gr Ch Buck... ROM
Gr Ch Art... ROM
Gr Ch Zebo... ROM
Gr Ch Midnight
Gr Ch Boomerang
Gr Ch Queen of Hearts
Ch Honeybunch...ROM
Tug... ROM
Ch Catfish...ROM
Dbl Gr Ch Tornado
MALES
GR.CH.BUCK R.O.M
CH.TURTLEBUSTER
GR.CH.ART R.O.M
CH.TERMIT R.O.M
TOMBSTONE R.O.M
FEMALES
DAISY MAE R.O.M
POLLY R.O.M
GR.CH.QUEEN OF HEARTS
CH.BAD ROSEMARY
CAROLINA FLO R.O.M
Males:
Ch Jeep
Gr ch Mayday
Gr ch Yellow
Bolio
Gr ch Buck
Females;
Honeybunch
Gr ch BB red
Hollingswoth Dolly
Waccamaws Sabre
Gr ch Quenn of Harts
Nobody wants Tab, Dime or Pincher. Only one wanted Dibo.
I can't say which ten id want but I think Dime or Pincher would be in there.
Killerant
Seeing a lot of people pick Boomerang and Art & Stu Fowler, some very good ingredients as well as many picking QoH a dog with boomerang in her. With that said y'all know about these recipes which one are y'all hiding in the pen, share them Boomerang & E Crenshaw dogs
See most people would choose dogs from way past. Does that mean the quality of dogs today aren't as good as it used to be? I can't pick just like that. But would rather have something that have success in the fast lane (or producing fast lane dogs) of today rather than 20-30 years ago. Not saying that those dogs are better or anything. But if the goal is to improve your dogs each generation, then imo it would be a step back to striving for dogs of yesterday. Food for thought.
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Originally Posted by skipper
I agree with you in spirit, but I think one of the reasons why "dogs of the past" are selected is simply enough time has gone by to truly appreciate their value. ("The Light of Time's Perspective," as the saying goes.)
Yet, while the dogs of today are winning today ... the flipside to that arguement is the dogs of today have FAR more advantages now ... in areas such as conditioning knowledge/aftercare knowledge, etc. ... that, by contrast, it took a pretty damned good dog to perform at its best to survive and reproduce back in the day too.
That being said, what dogs would you choose, today or yesterday 8-)
forgot about homer!Quote:
Originally Posted by lilpitgirl
It's easier to pick "dogs of yesterday" as their records as producers already exists. And yes it takes years and years to evaluate a dogs reproduction (for several generations). I agree with you about the advantages about things as aftercare and such, maybe the dogs of yesteryears would have been even more legendary if they had the proper aftercare. That is all up to the owner, and one shouldn't compete without the knowledge to put one in shape or be able to properly take care of his animal after a hunt. But IMO the main thing is to know when your dog had enough. That saves more dogs than any aftercare in the world. With that being said. I should stick to my statement and pick dogs of today.Quote:
I agree with you in spirit, but I think one of the reasons why "dogs of the past" are selected is simply enough time has gone by to truly appreciate their value. ("The Light of Time's Perspective," as the saying goes.)
Yet, while the dogs of today are winning today ... the flipside to that arguement is the dogs of today have FAR more advantages now ... in areas such as conditioning knowledge/aftercare knowledge, etc. ... that, by contrast, it took a pretty damned good dog to perform at its best to survive and reproduce back in the day too.
That being said, what dogs would you choose, today or yesterday 8-)
Vengeance and Chilindrina would be my picks. Picking 10 would take forever. Those are my picks just out of what they accomplished in recent times.
Good post about knowing when enough is enough ... and can't go wrong with those dog choices either!
Great topic
Males
1. Garners Chinaman
2. Garners Spike
3. Kellys Mojo Rising
4. Kellys Young Chinaboy
5. Krunchs Miester
6. Krunchs Macguyver
Females
1. Slingshots Shotzie
2. Moaks Jason
3. Paynes Lee Ling
4. Cull Hards Goldie
males Tant's poncho,Long's Werdo,RC's magnum,Crenshaw's gator,Tant's bruiser. Females Queen of hearts,honeybunch,Jackson's hooker red,daisy mae,Boyles dirty mary
Males
1. Gr ch buck
2.Greenwood's Ch Jimmy Boot's
3. O steven's Homer
4. Tombstone
5.chavi's yellow john
Females
1.Greenwood's Ms.holliday
2.Patrick's lady in red
3. Stone city's Awesome baby
4.Art's missy
5.Boyle's Dirty mary
I don't think I could go wrong with this yard.
Males: Grch Art, Midnight cowboy, Grch Midnight, Jimmy Boots, Tombstone
Females: Grch Shady Lady, Honeybunch, Queen of Hearts, Carolina Flo, Poolhall Red
Males:
Crenshaw's Jeep
Crenshaw's Black Jack
Irish Tom's Justice
Wood's Snooty
Crenshaw's Rascal
Females:
Crenshaw's Honeybunch
Rebels Shady Lady
Carver's Miss Spike
Garners China Girl 1
Busenbark's Honeydew
Males: Mayday, Termite, Jeep, Bolio, Badger
Females: Honeybunch, Dolly, Art's Missy, Miss Jocko, XUXA
Males Boomerang, Zebo, Megabite, Rascal, Floyd
Females Honeybunch, Bad Rosemary, Queen of Hearts, Pandi, Tornado
Males
1. Gr Ch Zebo
2. Gr Ch Andy Capp
3. Gr Ch Buck
4. Gr Ch Robert T
5. Gr CH Banjo
Females
1. Double Gr Ch Tornado
2. Gr Ch Shady Lady
3. Ch Pandi
4. Ch Honeybunch
5. Gr Ch Queen of Hearts
Gotttt Dammmnnn!!!! I would be unbeatable....LOL man what a line up u can tell which part of the sport I prefer buy the line up I just listed ;)
I would like as my males
Gr ch art
Gr ch banjo
Gr ch machobuck
Bolio
Gr ch boomerang
Females would be
Gr ch bb red
Gr ch shady lady
Honeybunch
Arts missy
Tornado
Patricks Red Baby
Honeybunch
Shady Lady
Queen of Hearts
Chinaman
Tants Yellow
Centipied
Gambler's Virgil
Redboy
Mayday
6 Males 4 Females I would Inbreed on my bitches heavy, then cross em up with my males. I chose more males because thier semen can be collected and stored for further down the road to tighten up with.
There are so many great bulldogs of the past, but I can narrow it down to two. One is a house hold name in the apbt world INDIAN BOLIO (ROM) and the other is my foundation bitch Daryls Bullysondra and her pedigree is full of greats.
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/pu ... _id=157791
1. Mayday
2. Gr.Ch.Yellowbuck
3. Gr.Ch.Yellow
4. STP's Gr.Ch.Buck
5. Jimmy Booots
1. Hollingsworth Dolly ROM
2. Awesome Baby ROM
3. Gr.Ch.Queen of Hearts
4. SCK's Ch.Piggy
5. Mims' Carolina Flo
Males:
indian bolio rom
Plumbers ch alligator por
Farves ch luke
Adams gr ch kingfish por
tudors gr ch blackjack
Females:
Ch indian bloomers
Crenshaws ch honeybunch rom
Adams ch candy rom
Tudors ch baby
Carvers mendencino
I think these would do real nice! If I were to throw an extra male into the mix it would be maloneys toot.